Just How good is your PC?Windows 7 can tell you.

[AARPRazorbacks]

(to answer your question, I have a 128 GB CRUCIAL SSD, and a I TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata 2 HDD -of course, performance may depend on what is installed where)[/QUOTE]


Good to see you score high with the 128 GB CRUCIAL SSD. I'm putting in a Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive when it gets here Monday or the next day.
The only thing I'm putting on this SSD is W-7, CLoD and RoF.
This should make W-7 much faster because W-7 was set-up to run on SDD's
as is CLoD and RoF.

I say CloD is set-up to run on SDD's because W-7 is. And for CLoD to run it's best is on W-7 64 bit.

[White Owl]

When I was first considering getting a solid state drive, I did some googling and came across an article that explained in great detail how the Windows experience index is perfectly useless for evaluating SSDs, since the index uses the drive's rotation speed as an important criteria. And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.

I don't have the link anymore, and don't recall where I found it.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by White Owl

When I was first considering getting a solid state drive, I did some googling and came across an article that explained in great detail how the Windows experience index is perfectly useless for evaluating SSDs, since the index uses the drive's rotation speed as an important criteria. And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.

I don't have the link anymore, and don't recall where I found it.

well considering that SSD is just a really big RAM drive that would make perfect sense
on the other hand we should not have to buy expensive equipment to compensate for bad code....

S!

[AARPRazorbacks]

Originally Posted by White Owl

When I was first considering getting a solid state drive, I did some googling and came across an article that explained in great detail how the Windows experience index is perfectly useless for evaluating SSDs, since the index uses the drive's rotation speed as an important criteria. And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.

I don't have the link anymore, and don't recall where I found it.

I'm sure you read that some were about vista.
Windows 7 is made to run SSD. Windows experience index was up dated to test SSD drives in W-7.

Say goodbye to those times when the maximum score that a Windows Vista PC could return was 5.9. With the introduction of Windows 7, the Windows Experience Index has evolved from 5.9 up to no less than 7.9. However, at the same time, other aspects of the WEI have not changed in the least. The score that Windows 7 will return will continue to be based on the lowest subscore, taking into consideration hardware resources such as Processor; Memory (RAM); Graphics; Gaming Graphics (typically 3D); and Primary Hard Disk. But while the scoring is the same as the one debuted in Vista, the WEI can now go as high as 7.9.


“In Vista, the WEI scores ranged from 1.0 to 5.9. In Windows 7, the range has been extended upward to 7.9. The scoring rules for devices have also changed from Vista to reflect experience and feedback comparing closely rated devices with differing quality of actual use (i.e. to make the rating more indicative of actual use.) We know during the beta some folks have noticed that the score changed (relative to Vista) for one or more components in their system and this tuning, which we will describe here, is responsible for the change,” Michael Fortin, one of Microsoft’s distinguished engineers and head of the Windows Fundamentals feature team, revealed.

With Windows 7, the maximum score possible will be 7.9, a good couple of points up from Vista's 5.9. What will take for a computer to achieve the new WEI peak? Well, according to Microsoft, nothing short of the key technology improvements as they go mainstream, namely solid state disks, but also high-end graphics and multi-core processors, plus a consistent volume of RAM.

“For these new levels, we’re working to add guidelines for each level. As an example for gaming users, we expect systems with gaming graphics scores in the 6.0 to 6.9 range to support DX10 graphics and deliver good frames rates at typical screen resolutions (like 40-50 frames per second at 1280x1024). In the range of 7.0 to 7.9, we would expect higher frame rates at even higher screen resolutions. Obviously, the specifics of each game have much to do with this and the WEI scores are also meant to help game developers decide how best to scale their experience on a given system,” Fortin added, indicating that graphics remained an area with the largest amount of scores available.

The bottom line is that, in order to achieve a perfect 7.9 Windows 7 score, users will have to buy a computer powered by at least an 8 core processor. However, the processor is simply not enough. Customers will also have to feed their machine with RAM, somewhere in the vicinity of 8 GB. At the same time, Solid State Drives (SSDs) with very high random I/O rates and as low as possible latency issues will also contribute to getting close to 7.9. When it comes to graphics, users will need a card with at least DirectX 10 support and a WDDM 1.1 driver.




{And of course a SSD doesn't have a rotation speed. So with that bit of information missing, all the other numbers are garbage.}

There are SSD developers that use Windows experience index from W-7 to test an sell there SSD's like this. And all PC game developers know of this. Like IC.


Single SandForce Driven™ SSDs Are First to Proclaim Maximum Windows Experience Index Storage Score

SandForce Driven SSD Manufacturers Proudly Demonstrate Production SATA 6Gb/s SSDs at Computex including the latest program member, Kingston Technology

COMPUTEX TAIPEI 2011
June 02, 2011 02:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time
TAIPEI, Taiwan--(EON: Enhanced Online News)--SandForce® Inc., the innovator of Solid State Drive (SSD) Processors that drive ubiquitous deployment of volume flash memory into primary and I/O intensive data storage applications, today announced that single SSDs based on the SF-2000 SSD Processor and advanced 25nm multi-level cell (MLC) flash memory achieve the highest possible Microsoft Windows Experience Index (WEI) score of 7.9 for the disk data transfer rate. Microsoft provides the WEI to enable end users to easily identify their system’s capabilities when considering running high-performance applications with the best user experience. Today a single SF-2000-based SandForce Driven™ SSD eliminates storage access bottlenecks and future-proofs the system for optimally running current and next generation, data throughput-intensive applications.

“Our mission critical Mobile Workstations and Mobile Servers will be vastly improved with the addition of SF-2000 series SSDs, with up to 4 drives in RAID 0/1/5/10 configurations”
The SF-2000 processors feature a 6 Gigabit-per-second (Gb/s) SATA host interface, an unprecedented sustained sequential read/write performance of up to 500 Megabytes per second (MB/s), award-winning DuraClass™ Technology, and state-of-the-art, high-speed ONFi2 and Toggle flash interfaces supporting single-level cell (SLC) & MLC NAND flash families from all major suppliers.

“SandForce SSD Processors optimize the entire Microsoft Windows computing experience with incredible boot and program loading times while enhancing systems responsiveness under virtually all workloads when compared to traditional spinning media as well as other SSD solutions,” said Sumit Puri, Sr. Director of Strategic Marketing for SandForce. “Our innovative DuraClass technology is uniquely positioned to optimize data transfers between increasingly faster, multi-core processors and the SSD storage media, providing the highest system-level performance and longest endurance with standard NAND flash memory.”

[AndyJWest]

AARPRazorbacks, a simple question. Are you in any way connected with Microsoft? Your repeated postings about the 'Microsoft Windows Experience Index', and your reluctance to reply to negative comments, suggest to me that you either lack objectivity, or aren't interested in anyone's opinion but your own. Can you explain why we should take your opinions seriously?

[AARPRazorbacks]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

AARPRazorbacks, a simple question. Are you in any way connected with Microsoft? Your repeated postings about the 'Microsoft Windows Experience Index', and your reluctance to reply to negative comments, suggest to me that you either lack objectivity, or aren't interested in anyone's opinion but your own. Can you explain why we should take your opinions seriously?

AndyJWest, You might say I'm connected with Microsoft.
I have bought and use MS software and joy stick.

As far as repeated postings about the 'Microsoft Windows Experience Index' that is what this thread is about.

My reluctance to reply to negative comments? I don't feed the trolls if thats what you mean.

I'm very objective about Microsoft Windows Experience Index because that is the PC software and hardware developers standard for there products.



Can you explain why (we) should take your opinions seriously? Are you talking for yourself or a group of people in a room hovered around your PC?

The fact is most people use MWEI (if thy know about it on there W-7) to find bottlenecks in there system to be able to run PC games such as CLoD and others.


Do thy need to have SSD"s to play CLod? No. To try and find what hardware to upgrade with out using the shotgun method and pin point the weak spot in there system MWEI is the tool to use. If and when thy want to upgrade.


AndyJWest, Let me remind you of your first post and what you said:

Bullpoop!
My 2 GB Radeon 6970 scores 6.4, and a 1280 MB Nvidia 470 scores 7.8? I think not. It doesn't seem to take into account overclocking, or much else besides - it doesn't even seem to differentiate between 69xx series cards. (I sincerely hope that nobody takes this seriously.)

Like you asked, I did not take this seriously. Or are you some how connected to Radeon

[Ibis]

Here is mine-
note that the hard drive is a top line SSD and according to this is the weakest link.
cheers,
Ibis.
Edit: this only runs COD reasonably
Gigabyte A-UD7-B3 MB
i7-2600K @ 4.2
8GB of Vengeance
120GB OCZ Vertex-2
Sapphire HD5870
Windows7 64bit

[Strike]

7.5

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Ibis

Here is mine-
note that the hard drive is a top line SSD and according to this is the weakest link.
cheers,
Ibis.
Edit: this only runs COD reasonably
Gigabyte A-UD7-B3 MB
i7-2600K @ 4.2
8GB of Vengeance
120GB OCZ Vertex-2
Sapphire HD5870
Windows7 64bit

Same for me, my SSD is apparently the weakest link, I do need to update new drivers/firmware I hear that improves the score.

[brando]

I'm surprised that no one has interpreted this feature as the simple sales tool that it is.