Why fly the Spitfire?

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

What are you going to do? he can extend quicker than you which gives the 109 an advantage in getting more altitude than you depending on how high you are this advantage widens, I wouldn't fancy your chance Med to High Alt and at Co Alt with a 109, you will find yourself evading more than the 109 unless he's made a mistake, sure you can dive but your compress quicker anyway aswell as being slower in that dive.

Well, Spit I vs BF has almost the same problems as BF vs Spit II (except that BF also turns poorly). You either rely on higher initial E state or on lesser skill of enemy.

[Danelov]

Well , the point to remember and take in count always is : Spitfire fight better in the horizontal, turn better and close , 109 in the vertical, hit and run. Both planes weakest point is the radiator system, a good placed bullet in the radiator and the plane is on the way to go down. Also for the 109 ,the landing gear is very weakest. Some estimations speak of ca 20 % of the 109 production loss in landing accidents after the fragil landing gear. Messerschmitt was very skilled for gliders and so but the nightmare with the landing gear was always a great problem for him, and shortly later the disaster struck in full him with the failure of the Me 210, also with landing gear problems(and many others).

[l3uLLDoZeR]

I actually prefer to fly the hurricane on the SYN server. I can cruise 20-30 mph faster...and with the variable pitch prop it lets me fine tune more than the 2 stage on the spit. I just cruise around with the canopy open so I can see better, those metal bars always get in the way. It's still not as fast as 109/110, but it works much better than dragging an anchor around with the spit Ia!

[skouras]

the spit is an excellent fighter
but i prefer the 109

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ

Well, Spit I vs BF has almost the same problems as BF vs Spit II (except that BF also turns poorly). You either rely on higher initial E state or on lesser skill of enemy.

Exactly. I'm not much of an online flier (i used to fly in multiplayer for a few weeks every couple of months) but whenever i was online i would use the Fw-190A.

What some complain about is how i spent all my years with IL2, getting bounced by faster aircraft that can fly higher and being unable to follow them. Well, guess what, it's still possible to score kills against them and i'm far from a hotshot, ace or something similar. Think, apply some geometry and plan ahead, instead of relying on performance alone.

[klem]

Originally Posted by l3uLLDoZeR

I actually prefer to fly the hurricane on the SYN server. I can cruise 20-30 mph faster...and with the variable pitch prop it lets me fine tune more than the 2 stage on the spit. I just cruise around with the canopy open so I can see better, those metal bars always get in the way. It's still not as fast as 109/110, but it works much better than dragging an anchor around with the spit Ia!

+1 and I get kills. Depends on the pilot of course.

The Spit needs the Constant Speed Prop! It was available during the BoB and fitted for several Squadrons.


EDIT: And it needs 100 Octane.

[TomcatViP]

Ok guys why don't you accept that early war planes had used... early technologies.

I know I miss too my own board radar, my HUD and Helmet sight system but... CoD provide us with a unique sim depicting a very narrow windows of history where the line of history where written in bloods by a bunch of flyers. What else Flying Sim fan shld ask more ?

Can't ppl stop crying after their lost ego (IL2 Ninja's) and accept the true balance of weapons.

If you hve some mental difficulties flying a two prop fighters or a plane that can only dominate its opponents by a very narrow margin after builing a Tac advantage, pls feel free to join the other side of the channel where lies the so called über.

I wld gladly fly your left hurry and Spit up to the glorious skies.

We alrdy hve lost a representative pitch setting on the 109 due to cte red whining. What 's lyes now ahead... ?

i am begging devs not to fall in the RoF syndrome : hold down the mast - don't give ears to the siren's singing !

[609_Huetz]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Ok guys why don't you accept that early war planes had used... early technologies.

I know I miss too my own board radar, my HUD and Helmet sight system but... CoD provide us with a unique sim depicting a very narrow windows of history where the line of history where written in bloods by a bunch of flyers.

Can't ppl stop crying after their lost ego (IL2 Ninja's) and accept the true balance of weapons.

If you hve some mental difficulties flying a two prop fighters or a plane that can only dominate its opponents by a very narrow margin after builing a Tac advantage, pls feel free to join the other side of the channel where lies the so called über.

I wld gladly fly your left hurry and Spit up to the glorious skies.

We alrdy hve lost a representative pitch setting on the 109 due to cte red whining. What 's lyes now ahead... ?

i am begging devs not to fall in the RoF syndrome : hold down the mast - don't give ears to the siren's singing !

Sorry, but spare us the "red/blue whining" threads. People in here are not asking for a uber Spit or a uber Hurri, just as much as they do not want a uber 109. The point is asking (and getting asap) historical performance for each and every single plane.

The Spit MkIs in the BoB had a CSP, model it! The Hurricane was not faster than the Spit IRL, model it! The 109's prop pitch was faster, model it!

Also, your attack against RoF is totally untrue and uncalled for.

[TomcatViP]

LoL RoF FM models are disastrous.

I was a Fan as it went on stage even ordering it at high price abroad to get it as soon as it was available.

Early FM were so good it was a real pleasure to fight... And then came the squads with their radio ctrld fight (RoF devs took so much time modeling pilot hand signs but they don't care : they jus want to play their own way).

Soon we started to see new british planes beeing added such Se5 or Camels with their perfs à la IL2's Spitfire that can accelerate like a rocket or output E like a Japanese nuclear reactor (well they are all the same ).

I stopped playing the thing when I was chased by an entire squad of SE5 perfectly coordinated following my moves .... in a thick clouds !

And I know those guys.

Now RoF is back packed on the shelf aside WoP : a 120€ waste of money

That's what lies ahead here. I can see it like a spit in my visor .

By the way when ppl are battling to get a marginal plane modeled with marginal fuel to fight a series representative E3..... I call this red whining.

If you were fighting to get out the bomb racks of the 109 or asked for less range (this engine is not a Mercedes design - it came out of a Toyota Prius !) I wld hve been on your side.