Mods discussion, links, etc

[KaBoom]

My first post here at 1C
May I start by quoting AndyJWest,who's thread everyone is posting in

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I see Nearmiss has posted a sticky saying that discussion of mods is now permitted on this forum. Can I take it that it is ok to post links to the mod sites themselves? If so, another sticky with the leading ones (Ultrapack, SAS etc) would be useful.

As Nearmiss says, we shouldn't misuse this so can I make a personal request that everyone tries to avoid negative comments on mod pack FMs etc, and on all the other issues that have led to so much acrimony. Regardless of past issues, 'Classic' IL-2 modding is here to stay, and shows real signs of reaching a more stable and consistent state. Cliffs of Dover seems to have been designed right from the start to be more 'open', so the difference between 'stock' and 'mods' becomes largely an online server issue, rather than anything more fundamental. I think all this suggests that we can put past debates behind us, and work towards producing better sims.

Here I would like to quote a small section of AndyJWest's first post

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

As Nearmiss says, we shouldn't misuse this so can I make a personal request that everyone tries to avoid negative comments on mod pack FMs etc, and on all the other issues that have led to so much acrimony.

I assume Nearmiss is a Modertor,
and if so I do wonder why this thread has been allowed to go on like it has.
Especially when a lot of posts are in direct conflict with what was asked by the author

These are just a few of the posts I feel have nothing to do with this thread,
and should have been followed by some Moderation

It seems that certain individuals can carry on however they please...

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

Le0ne, frankly I really do not believe, I give a sh.t about you, or Hades (whomever that is) or your lame opinions.

If you do not care,why then be so vocal and opinionated

calling peoples opinions lame,
because they do not follow your ideals is rather.... well, lame

Originally Posted by ocococ

The truth is that, all the available IL-2 ModPacks give an unfinished/experimental/buggy/hobby/arcade feeling to IL-2. And this becomes more apparent the more you play them.

More complaining about Modpacks,
against the direct wishes of who started this thread,
you don't seem to follow any rules or guidelines in posting

Originally Posted by ocococ

There isn't a single ModPack out there, that is conservative, that acts "like" an official patch. Improving/adding only what is really needed and only with very HQ stuff.

Instead all the ModPacks have loads of unnecessary changes that mess up the game and destroy the good old IL-2 feeling that we are all used to, while also introducing rookie bugs and incompatibilities.

More complaining of Mod packs,
I wonder why you would even want to be apart of a discussion on Mods
Can you not just ignore something that you do not like,yet others do
Or is it that others like something ,that you do not

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

Absolutely. Who says, they can not? If someone wants 1956, or 1966, or 2366 martian frankenstein invasion - the can have it all in their mods. But not in the official add-on. That's the point of this discussion.

More complaining of Mods,
yet you say they can have it like you don't mind

franken plane modders do not expect there frankenplanes to be in any official add on,so why even think they do

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

List, please. Otherwise - you are a liar.

Do you really need to be calling people liars,
where are your manners

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

I could go through each of your points and explain in detail, why each of them is lame. But I will not. Because a) I know, that if not you, then most of the mod users will not listen to any reasons, so it would be a pure waste of time and effort; b) I respect your preferences and your desire to use mods - in no way I will try to prevent you from having and using them.

Then why be so vocal complaining so much about Mods,Packs ete ete

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

shitty franken-stuff; models, stolen from other games; dubious FM changes

complain,complain,complain...

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

So, basically, the changes in rules of this forum have nothing to do with DT or 1C:MG vision of the further game development.

If this forum has rules,
it must have some basic rules of behaving in an adult manner

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

Well, if DT owned, like 200 Chinese slaves, trained to do 3D modeling, texturing and Java programming, then DT could easily produce a high quality replacement for each franken-plane, cockpit, or object that modders ever put out, in no time.

Why do the slaves need to be Chinese,
rather a rude and racist comment IMHO

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

I've been right at the source for the last
Sorry, I don't really need and don't want this. There is so few, regarding mods, that I would say, I do like it and see, that its well done... so that it is in fact in summary not worthy to install a new game version for it.

Why post in this thread then,if you do not need or want

This was my first post at this forum,and it may very well be my last!
I suggest that if Mods,Modpacks,Franken planes or whatever else your problems are...that they should be left out of any Mod related threads!

Regards
KaBoom

[csThor]

If you read a bucket of downright nonsense poured over you would you stay out just because you haven't used mods?

Everyone's got an opinion and you are absolutely entitled to have yours. But whoever opened these boards to such discussions must have known what was to come.

[Oktoberfest]

What ? Lame troll by DT members ? Go work on 4.11 instead of doing this.

[ocococ]

I suggest that if Mods,Modpacks,Franken planes or whatever else your problems are...that they should be left out of any Mod related threads!

So posts that are related to "mods" should be left out of "mod related" threads?

[Azimech]

"640 KB ought to be enough for anyone"

Sure, progress should be limited to facilitate the lowest common denominator.

Let's upgrade the car by adding rubber mats, so the farmers can step in the car with their muddy boots, instead of upgrading the suspension so it has a smoother and faster ride, but the farmer has to walk a little because the car won't go through the mud anymore.

With the abundance of ultra-cheap PC parts *above* the minimum reqs everywhere on the planet, I think it's arrogant that the game should run on a few old laptops with all the settings on ultra, when after installing the *optional* patch, you could also lower some settings somewhat.

And no, I don't have money or a modern machine. The specs of my machine were high-end in 2005.

One more thing ... the fact that a huge amount of people are limited by 56Kbps has nothing to do with relative personal wealth or the availability of parts. It's about the costs of providing a long cable to distant rural areas. It shouldn't influence online play (and if you really plan on visible moving control surfaces for online games, it will).

[Radar]

dovete mangiarne di polenta

[_1SMV_Gitano]

polenta... check!
vinello... check!
grappa... check!

altro?

[Radar]

ciao Git
dopo questa scellerata trasgressione un sonnellino non ci starebbe male

pensando alle cose più serie: va che non mi sono ancora fatto sentire perchè
purtroppo per impegni/problemi personali di ognuno (anche miei) sono un po' indietro sugli impegni che ho preso

Nibbio mi ha quantificato il progresso su quello di cui parlavamo:
cca il 90% del lod0 dovrebbe essere pronto (condizionale d'obbligo )
appena abbiamo sistemata la libreria mi faccio vivo

S!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by KaBoom

Why post in this thread then,if you do not need or want

This was my first post at this forum,and it may very well be my last!
I suggest that if Mods,Modpacks,Franken planes or whatever else your problems are...that they should be left out of any Mod related threads!

I didn't read anywhere that this was only a 'Mods save the world' forum.
So why I'm not supposed to write my oppinion about mods here?

[KaBoom]

Do I need to remind you again,with a quote from the author AndyJWest...
what the thread was suppose to be about

The thread was not a "state your opinion" thread on Mods
Why would you assume it was

I suggest go and reading what I posted and quoted to begin with,
more thoroughly this time before posting

Also,go read the authors first post

BTW,nobody said or posted anything about it being a save the mods world thread... let alone let's bad mouth mods and those who have made any

It seems no matter what is posted,it is either to lay blame,insult or for some to defend

I find it all a little bit absurd to say the least
Quite humorous to see how offensive Mods are to some people

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

I didn't read anywhere that this was only a 'Mods save the world' forum.
So why I'm not supposed to write my oppinion about mods here?