What aircraft would a Battle for Moscow senario need?

[csThor]

No Bf 109 F-4, AFAIK no unit engaged in Taifun was equipped with them.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by csThor

No Bf 109 F-4, AFAIK no unit engaged in Taifun was equipped with them.

i dont care if there will be no F-4 in "Battle for Moskau" , as long there will be the FieldMod posibility for the F-2 to arm it with a MG151/20

i see, for our "anglo-american" friends it realy would have been better if 1C would have choosen something from the MTO as next AdOn Battlescenario
or at least something from later EasternFront
Kuban Spring 43 would have been my choice for that:
the Kuban map is still one of my favorites from classic IL2. So Shipattacks would also be possible....and well, a lot of 'wanted' aircraft there: Fw190 (even they were as groundattack planes there), Lend and lease Spitfire V, P-39.
But perhaps too much totaly new ones..... with the early Moskau scenario at least the LW ones are , some more some less, modifications of the BoB LW ones

at least the P-40B/C should be made flyable in the Moskau scenario, as it came in service in october 1941 around Moskau.

[Feathered_IV]

Personal must-haves are the Sturmy, Hs123, Polikarpovs 153 and 16. Plus the Storch and Po-2. Looking forward to trying to land a dangerously overladen He-111 on the ice covered strip of Gumrak one day too!

[addman]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Personal must-haves are the Sturmy, Hs123, Polikarpovs 153 and 16. Plus the Storch and Po-2. Looking forward to trying to land a dangerously overladen He-111 on the ice covered strip of Gumrak one day too!

I'll sign under that, especially the Hs123. So neglected yet such an interesting aircraft. After 10 years it's being added (official) to IL-2 Sturmovik albeit as A.I.

[TeeJay82]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

i dont care if there will be no F-4 in "Battle for Moskau" , as long there will be the FieldMod posibility for the F-2 to arm it with a MG151/20

Amen to that,and 20mm Wingcannons is also a must. And get rid of those useless MG17`s and gimme MOOOAR ammo for the nose 151..

but :/ i guess the 151 pods was not avaliable until the f4... sigh, We need the f4

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

i dont care if there will be no F-4 in "Battle for Moskau" , as long there will be the FieldMod posibility for the F-2 to arm it with a MG151/20

Fortunately the "little calibre" not anymore pop gun like than in Il-2.

[carguy_]

IIRC it was only belted with tracer and AP rounds.

[JG53Frankyboy]

think about the endless possibilities in belting for the .303 (as example) in BoB .................every roundtype fired once in history ??!


Hs129 does not fit in the scenario. THE firedepartment for the german Army to hold the soviet counteroffensive were the Bf110s (as max 4 Groups), the Hs123 and Bf109E (in total 3 sqadrons 109 fighterbombers and one squadron of the Henschel) and sure the Ju87 .

[Katkatman]

The main question won't be "which plane" but "which performances" (regarding quality products from the two sides), I already saw crapy planes easily shooting down another which couldn't been by this during the war.

By the way, the battle of moscow wasn't planned from a long time,having seen objects/models already created , Korea was.

God moves in mysterious ways

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Katkatman

God moves in mysterious ways

Yeah. I mean who would have thought that the Battle of Britain would just be a cover-up for the il2 remake.