Paccus HAWK-First joystick with hydraulic feedback

[Doc_uk]

Originally Posted by engadin

Some fresh news from the Paccus team:

"Dear pilot,

Do you remember we were working on realistic force feedback for your flightsims and games?

Not the kind of tickling in your hand, but a real force.
Not a faint feeling but realistic power.
Not some plastic toy but a solid aluminium stick.

Imagine how your flightsim experience changes if you can feel the wind on your ailerons and elevator.
Can you imagine how your shooter game experience changes if you feel the recoil like it's real?

It took time to create this perfect experience in a high quality and durable joystick.
And it is available very soon in a limited edition!

This weekend you can try the hydraulic force feedback at the UK's biggest flight sim weekend in Weston-super-Mare (near Bristol).
Check http://fscweston.co.uk for all details.

Next week we'll send you an impression of this event so keep an eye on your mailbox.

If you want to be sure you'll have your own Hawk within weeks, just send us an e-mail and you can be the first on our list.

with kind regards from the Paccus-team,
Ariella Bijl
www.paccus.com

P.S.: Share this e-mail with your friends so they too can benefit from this unique opportunity!

Paccus Joysticks - fast, precise and durable."

May Gods let us see how this joystick finally looks like, its features and how it works on a 'real sim' before our eyes. It will an exciting wait until I put my hands on that piece of HW. High hopes here.

Engadin.

I dont think he is even reading some of the replys, in this topic lol

[Hexcaliber]

Originally Posted by Doc_uk

It sure does look ugly, and the price,€450 yea right i dont think so.
Will stick with my warthog, somthing that looks and feels like a flight stick

Where the heck are you guys seeing prices this low, the hawk is advertised on their site at €2,450.00 that's $3525.16 give or take a few cents per euro for current exchange rate fluctuation.

Way over priced, ugly, and poor ergonomic design that does not take usability into consideration, if they ship 10 units I will be amazed. Whoever designed this has never used a stick in a flight sim, that is for damn sure; it is immediately evident the developers did no research whatsoever on their target audience and the competition. It is sad to see any new startup destined for failure right out the gate but I cannot see any gaming market this unit will appeal to.

[engadin]

Originally Posted by Hexcaliber

Where the heck are you guys seeing prices this low, the hawk is advertised on their site at €2,450.00 that's $3525.16 give or take a few cents per euro for current exchange rate fluctuation.

Way over priced, ugly, and poor ergonomic design that does not take usability into consideration, if they ship 10 units I will be amazed. Whoever designed this has never used a stick in a flight sim, that is for damn sure; it is immediately evident the developers did no research whatsoever on their target audience and the competition. It is sad to see any new startup destined for failure right out the gate but I cannot see any gaming market this unit will appeal to.

Mate, sincerely, you should wait a little and start your week-end fiesta on saturday, thursday is still too soon to jump into a beer pool and drawn in it .... almost.

Would you mind to point out the actual url where your out-of-this-world prices are supposed to show up?

Last year - 2010 - prices were €390 for the Hawk (FFB) and €280 for the Falcon (no FFB). [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t.../m/2661077438]

I am afraid exchange rates haven't fluctuated so much since then. Get a second look on your source of information, please.

Engadin.

[brando]

Originally Posted by engadin

Mate, sincerely, you should wait a little and start your week-end fiesta on saturday, thursday is still too soon to jump into a beer pool and drawn in it .... almost.

Would you mind to point out the actual url where your out-of-this-world prices are supposed to show up?

Last year - 2010 - prices were €390 for the Hawk (FFB) and €280 for the Falcon (no FFB). [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t.../m/2661077438]

I am afraid exchange rates haven't fluctuated so much since then. Get a second look on your source of information, please.

Engadin.

Try here; http://www.paccus.com/forcefeedbackjoystickshop

Prices in the 1,000s of Euros: Hawk Price: € 2,397.00, Falcon Price: € 1,647.00 (no FFB)

[robtek]

This web-page doesn't exist anymore!

[Fergal69]

I've a Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold

I chose this as it was a decent priced joystick at the time it was out & because it resembles a WWII fighter stick, in passing.

I can't understand some people who have the all singing all dancing joysticks that they can put flaps down, wheels down, etc. without having to take their hand off the joystick or throttle control - by having to move from joystick to keyboard, it at least resembles, again in passing, what WWII pilots had to do, ie. let go of something to change something else.

I don't have force feedback joystick as at the time i couldn't afford one. If/when this Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold lets me down then I'll consider a new joystick.

[zoopyzook]

kind of looks like something you may find in some "specialist" movies

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Bricks

Reminds me of something you get in the adults-shop.

obviously your brain is wired the same as mine

[brando]

Originally Posted by robtek

This web-page doesn't exist anymore!

The link I posted certainly does

http://www.paccus.com/forcefeedbackjoystickshop

[engadin]

Originally Posted by brando

Try here; http://www.paccus.com/forcefeedbackjoystickshop

Prices in the 1,000s of Euros: Hawk Price: € 2,397.00, Falcon Price: € 1,647.00 (no FFB)

Hi Brando, sorry but all I get is this:

'404 - Error
This is a standard message from your web browser indicating that the file trying to be accessed doesn't exist or isn't available; basically it means a dead end'.

You know what? These guys @ Paccus will also produce these joysticks versions for industrial and/or medical use. It is a plausible explanation that the high prices you provided were related to these professional sort of joysticks.

Engadin.

[uahallie]

Perfectly working homepage, and absolutely crazy prices for that ugly fail...sorry to say.

Originally Posted by engadin

Hi Brando, sorry but all I get is this:

'404 - Error
This is a standard message from your web browser indicating that the file trying to be accessed doesn't exist or isn't available; basically it means a dead end'.

You know what? These guys @ Paccus will also produce these joysticks versions for industrial and/or medical use. It is a plausible explanation that the high prices you provided were related to these professional sort of joysticks.

Engadin.