how many cores does clod use

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Zoom2136

This is true of FPS. Flight sims suffer from a slow CPU (it really is the bottleneck in what we are concern).

So for flight sims, always buy the fastest CPU you can afford. Presently its the i7-2600K, followed closely by the i5-2500K. Remember that the newer i5 & i7 are faster clock for clock than the previous generation. See here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...m-ii,2926.html

So get the best CPU with a good overclocking motherboard, then if you only run 1 GPU, you can live a less than 600W PSU, if you plan on running SLI/Crossfire go with a 750+ PSU.

In you case the last thing to upgrade should be the video card (GPU). Oleg's game seem to favor Nvidea. Don't know why? I prefer AMD myself. Here look here and decide.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-590,2912.html

Not really and certainly not if they thread it well. You need ram to have the game in memory so the cpu can calculate, you need it for the gpu etc. Also the fastest CPU wont help you if your gpu is crap, in all honesty COD does not push hardware components atm. The fastest i5 will not perform as well as a low range i7 in the future, you may have high GHZ but when my cpu can get double the work done with threading then yours can, you hit a cap where as I havent, because I havent even OCed it yet.

Also I would stay away from anything that is watercooled for a noob, unless he will learn to OC and maintain the system its not worth the cost.

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Also I would stay away from anything that is watercooled for a noob, unless he will learn to OC and maintain the system its not worth the cost.

Absolutely. Water isn't needed for sandy bridge overclocks unless you go mad with your clock. I'd install water on my GPU instead of CPU for this game anyway.

[janpitor]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Not really and certainly not if they thread it well. You need ram to have the game in memory so the cpu can calculate, you need it for the gpu etc. Also the fastest CPU wont help you if your gpu is crap, in all honesty COD does not push hardware components atm. The fastest i5 will not perform as well as a low range i7 in the future, you may have high GHZ but when my cpu can get double the work done with threading then yours can, you hit a cap where as I havent, because I havent even OCed it yet.

Also I would stay away from anything that is watercooled for a noob, unless he will learn to OC and maintain the system its not worth the cost.

Dont overestimate hyperthreading...you have 8 threads, but it isnt like having 8 cores...it is a little bit faster...but the real purpose of hyperthreading is more programs can run at the same time...there is no point in optimising a game for 8 threads...no gain

Generally the only advantage is tripple channel Ram...THATS IT. Buy i5...best bucks for power in flight simulators especially because of better or same overclock.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by janpitor

Dont overestimate hyperthreading...you have 8 threads, but it isnt like having 8 cores...it is a little bit faster...but the real purpose of hyperthreading is more programs can run at the same time...there is no point in optimising a game for 8 threads...no gain

Generally the only advantage is tripple channel Ram...THATS IT. Buy i5...best bucks for power in flight simulators especially because of better or same overclock.

Yes because you have plenty of experience with this stuff to base your opinion on? 8 threads = alot better than 4 threads/cores. Your cpu has to sit and wait for your ram, in the meantime if you have an i7 it will be far more active/productive.

[patrat1]

considering that the op only plays il2 1946, rof, lockon and now cod i hardly think he has to worry about getting a cpu with six or eight cores or fancy threading capability, for now or in the forseeable future.

in view of his limited game selection i think he cant go wrong with a I5 2500K.

[janpitor]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Yes because you have plenty of experience with this stuff to base your opinion on? 8 threads = alot better than 4 threads/cores. Your cpu has to sit and wait for your ram, in the meantime if you have an i7 it will be far more active/productive.

8 threads isnt the same as 8 cores...with or without hyperthreading, the total processing power available is approximately the same (if the frequency and number of cores is the same)...you can just run more applications at the same time...8 threads could be usefull only if the game could use more threads but couldn´t use them to their full capacity (less than 50%load on every thread)

Just try to switch off hyperthreading on your CPU and see the minimal difference in FPS

[TonyD]

Jayrc; if you want an unbiased opinion from a long-time AMD fan, the current best gaming cpu for the money is a Core i5 2500, which took the crown from the previous best – the Core i5 750. (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...or,2895-4.html) Get the ‘k’ model if you want to overclock and the price difference isn’t too high, remembering that overclocking your cpu will not provide a huge gain in frame rate anyway.

My favourite for reading up on comparisons is Tom’s Hardware, although there are plenty of others (type ‘pc hardware review’ into Google and follow your nose), but you will find that this is the general consensus.

If you use your pc for work as well as gaming, you might want to look at a (hyper-threaded) Core i7 2600 (k or vanilla model), as this could be beneficial.

Good luck!

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by TonyD

Jayrc; if you want an unbiased opinion from a long-time AMD fan

AMD fan here as well. To me they have always been 'cooler' than Intel, and also one has to root for the underdog.

Sadly, I can't justify buying AMD over Intel right now.
Anyways, let me scoot before I start a flamewar or something.

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

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Sadly, I can't justify buying AMD over Intel right now.
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Oh, I could, but then I’m of the opinion that you require an adequate cpu for a gaming rig, rather than the best. A budget allocation should prioritise a graphics card rather than a cpu, but if it stretches to a SandyBridge quad-core, why not?

Your choice of phrasing is also pertinent – who knows how this may change next month?

[TommiVH]

well in Arma 2 that was not to get more fbs but getting the game work in the first place. That HT was causing fatal error to game...