Why blue and red team?

[baronWastelan]

Who were the "Allies" exactly in July - Nov 1940? Let's start a list.

1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?

[Tempered]

Red and blue have always been used to represent two opposing forces. When you have players on both sides, you can't really say "Red is always the enemy" now can you?

Besides, the game is setup so as to allow any number of nations to be at war, either in a historical or fictional context. What if I wanted to make a scenario where Canada invades the U.S. Who would you call the "allies" and the "axis" then?

[seiseki]

Originally Posted by Tempered

When you have players on both sides, you can't really say "Red is always the enemy" now can you?

Why not?
Lots of games have the opposite side as red and friendlies as green..

[FG28_Kodiak]

Blue vs Red is better than pink vs turquoise.

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

Who were the "Allies" exactly in July - Nov 1940? Let's start a list.

1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. Herman Goering
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?

[jg27_mc]

Originally Posted by Lixma

1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. Herman Goering
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?

ROTFL

+1

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

Nice revisit to a 10 year old convention, Seiseki. +1 for Balls.

I think a large reason to not change this is actually "tradition".

Traditionally these colors are etched in our brains and it's one less thing to worry with increased workload, detail, situational awareness that comes with a much higher fidelty simulation.

Keep it the same. No reason to change now.

S!

Gunny

[Furio]

Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger

Nice revisit to a 10 year old convention, Seiseki. +1 for Balls.

I think a large reason to not change this is actually "tradition".

Traditionally these colors are etched in our brains and it's one less thing to worry with increased workload, detail, situational awareness that comes with a much higher fidelty simulation.

Keep it the same. No reason to change now.

S!

Gunny

Well said. Totally agree with you, Gunny.
By the way, if you look at the matter from a political point of view, surely the colour for Fascists and Nazis was black, while you know who had Red Guards and the Order of Red Banner, and celebrated Red October.
By the way, 80% of war in Europe was Blacks versus Reds.

My opinion? Keep Red and Blue as they are, please. It’s just a fine Il2 Sturmovik tradition.

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by nats

Balls. Since when was Russia ever considered Europe? I take it you arent from Europe to say something stupid like that. Who gives a stuff about the Russians when you are playing a game about the Battle of Britain which was about the British against the Germans?

I couldnt give a damn about Il2 'tradition' either. For me the good guys are always blue and the bad guys are red, simple as that.

But for me playing 'blue and red teams' is a complete put off that immediately says to me I am playing a crap computer game and not a decent simulation. In real life it was all about the Allies and the Axis.

But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.

??

red = allies
Blue = axis

why complciate things?

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by nats

Balls. Since when was Russia ever considered Europe? I take it you arent from Europe to say something stupid like that. Who gives a stuff about the Russians when you are playing a game about the Battle of Britain which was about the British against the Germans?

I couldnt give a damn about Il2 'tradition' either. For me the good guys are always blue and the bad guys are red, simple as that.

But for me playing 'blue and red teams' is a complete put off that immediately says to me I am playing a crap computer game and not a decent simulation. In real life it was all about the Allies and the Axis.

But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.

From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#Geography

Russia is also the ninth most populous nation with 143 million people.[9] It extends across the whole of northern Asia and 40% of Europe, spanning 9 time zones and incorporating a wide range of environments and landforms.

Apart from that your post is quite possibly the biggest pile of bollocks I have had the misfortune to read on this forum.