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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-21-2011, 01:24 AM
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what about us with new and powerfull rigs and performance probs....heck I was a beta tester so I know how to optimise my system, overclock HW and resource free my OS, tuneup the game; but still have probs in the sim...its not smooth at all mate.....yep I have high FPS but thats means shhhh if hte sim isnt optimised well....some of the problems are coming from non existing vsync, fps limiter, but the real problem is unoptimised game......what would be online with more players if I have probs in single player with 3 planes above the land?
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What we are seeing in IL2 should not be problematic on modern rigs. The fact that there are no tree hitboxes but they "supposedly" (not idea if they do) track each bullet is insanse - you can track a bullet but not a tree?
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:27 AM
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From reading that discussion between the programmers it seems that CoD lacked firm leadership that kept on goal: release of the next gen sim. Too much was changed or something new tested all the time thus nothing was really finished properly and now release came. We got what we got. Not complaining, I enjoy CoD a lot even with it's bugs.

The mini update gives good indication what we will get, but frankly many of these optimizations should have been there from the start. Not added after release in a frantic patching schedule.

Anyways, greatly appreciate the updates as CoD is not abandoned Happy flying.
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:44 AM
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I just wanted to chime in on the posts from Mr KYA. He hasn't been with the company for almost 18 months, and I'm really not the kind of person who likes to air out dirty laundry and get into discussions of past faults and grievances. We had our differences, and we had our reasons for parting ways.

I'm not going to escalate this discussion, or rather not going to stoop to the same level and begin airing dirty laundry. I just hope everyone reading his posts takes them with a grain of salt, knowing they're coming from a disgruntled ex-employee. His opinion is perhaps a little biased.

I hope I won't ever have to say anything else on the matter.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:21 AM
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we really don't care whether someone stole his samovar

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Old 04-21-2011, 07:29 AM
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I just wanted to chime in on the posts from Mr KYA. He hasn't been with the company for almost 18 months, and I'm really not the kind of person who likes to air out dirty laundry and get into discussions of past faults and grievances. We had our differences, and we had our reasons for parting ways.

I'm not going to escalate this discussion, or rather not going to stoop to the same level and begin airing dirty laundry. I just hope everyone reading his posts takes them with a grain of salt, knowing they're coming from a disgruntled ex-employee. His opinion is perhaps a little biased.

I hope I won't ever have to say anything else on the matter.
Thanks for the explanation Luthier. Most people will understand this as you said. The important thing is that there is a team working on it, and that you get enough income to keep developing. I believe the comunitty wont let you doWn if you persevere, as you are doing already btw. My Best wishes and good luck.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:21 AM
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I just wanted to chime in on the posts from Mr KYA. He hasn't been with the company for almost 18 months, and I'm really not the kind of person who likes to air out dirty laundry and get into discussions of past faults and grievances. We had our differences, and we had our reasons for parting ways.

I'm not going to escalate this discussion, or rather not going to stoop to the same level and begin airing dirty laundry. I just hope everyone reading his posts takes them with a grain of salt, knowing they're coming from a disgruntled ex-employee. His opinion is perhaps a little biased.

I hope I won't ever have to say anything else on the matter.
And yet we get more of an idea of what went wrong by reading his comments than we do from any of the people still working on the game. I'm sure you've seen all the speculation on what happened, yet we hear nothing from the team to explain it. The strangest thing is it took you six years to release an unplayable game (the stuttering) yet only two/three weeks to fix that with the multicore revision. For the sake of those two/three weeks you could have averted the release disaster. I'm sure some will say "that's none of your business", but I have to differ, for obvious reasons. We paid our money and we still do not have a game...MP still does not work properly, and there is no campaign. And no, I do not call what has been provided even remotely a 'campaign'. It is an insult if I'm frank.

And frankness, Luthier, would win you much credit. The community, on the whole, would like to think of itself as your partner in this, rather than mere customers who have been sold a non-functional game (as it was until the multicore revision, and still is for those without multicore CPUs).

On a more positive note, it is, at least, my opinion that certain parts of the game are true genius. The DM is incredible. And the terrain, at maximum settings, is likewise. Other components, the sound particularly, are pale shadows by comparison. The bugs are just bugs, par for the course these days with most releases. The pseudo full-window...god knows what's going on with that. But after the multicore revision I have considerably more faith this sim can, and will, come good. It's just that I, and most others (be sure) would appreciate the courtesy of being given some idea of what went wrong. Everyone who put their money on the table did, after all, indulge in a risky investment. And I'm not talking only of the cost of the game but the significant amounts that were invested in new hardware (in my case over £1000).

Keep going Luthier. If you can make this game what it should have been at release it will become a true milestone in simming history.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:31 AM
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As above. Re that partnership thing. Hate to keep banging on about DCS and their products.....but.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:44 AM
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And yet we get more of an idea of what went wrong by reading his comments than we do from any of the people still working on the game. I'm sure you've seen all the speculation on what happened, yet we hear nothing from the team to explain it.
Mr KYA is giving you an extremely skewed view on a very limited section of the game's development. Besides, he's been gone for 18 months. He's glossing over his own involvement in the project prior to his departure, and his opinion about the events afterwards is nothing but a guess.

Once again, I am NOT going to air out our dirty laundry. It's not because I see our relationship in a wrong way or I don't value you as both members and clients and fellow sim fans, but because this is simply not done. The only result of me going out here and telling you how and why would be me getting fired the next morning.

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Old 04-21-2011, 09:02 AM
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Mr KYA is giving you an extremely skewed view on a very limited section of the game's development. Besides, he's been gone for 18 months. He's glossing over his own involvement in the project prior to his departure, and his opinion about the events afterwards is nothing but a guess.

Once again, I am NOT going to air out our dirty laundry. It's not because I see our relationship in a wrong way or I don't value you as both members and clients and fellow sim fans, but because this is simply not done. The only result of me going out here and telling you how and why would be me getting fired the next morning.
Fair enough mate, if it would mean your job you have no choice.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:13 AM
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Thank you for your courtesy, Luthier, but I think that isn't a good idea to reply to the "dirty laundry", let your work speaks for you.
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