cheats allready

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Looks like the old days when we were on the ZONE...

wow thats a memory and a half .... ago. whats it 10 years or somthing ?

[Extreme_One]

VAC banned accounts are only prohibited from visiting servers with VAC enabled.

VAC banned accounts can still play offline and can still join servers that have elected not to enable VAC.

[123-Wulf-123]

There are some sick little puppies with sore egos and a vengeful streak that will be posting this sort of stuff for months to come, its their twisted way of making themselves feel useful.

[squidgyb]

Originally Posted by Extreme_One

VAC banned accounts are only prohibited from visiting servers with VAC enabled.

VAC banned accounts can still play offline and can still join servers that have elected not to enable VAC.

Thanks for clearing that up for me - I'm sure a quick google would have brought up the info

That puts my mind to rest somewhat.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Ali Fish

wow thats a memory and a half .... ago. whats it 10 years or somthing ?

all "arrrgghhh - ffs, not again!" @ the zone monster


hack cheats? - ban their sorry butt

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

It depends on the terms and conditions you've agreed to. Have you read all the T&C of Steam and Ubisoft for the game? If the terms say that you are paying for a license to use the game, and you lose the right if you modify the game, then why are you so sure that law where you are is different?

Because EU consumer law treats software more or less as physical purchases, like a car or a toaster: you buy it, you use it, you can resell it, etc. Local law is above and invalidates any EULA, it's just that none of us can afford to take a publishing house to court over disputes in their EULAs.

However, during the fiasco with the always online Ubisoft copy protection scheme enough people were affected (couldn't connect to the validation servers, so they were locked out of their legally purchased games) that certain officials and members of parliament in Scandinavian countries started looking into it.

Unfortunately, the situation was defused before it could get to courts. And i say unfortunately, because all it takes for this to change is setting a precedent stating that "you can't sell in the EU unless you follow such and such rules" which will benefit the customers. After that, other markets will start demanding the same treatment from software publishers ("why do we have to put up with X while they Europeans don't? i'm boycotting the game/buying a European version/etc") and will eventually get it.

Originally Posted by kimosabi

Get your priorities straight. Im saying like it is and it is just a game. Therefore I have no problems paying for the right to use the game instead of, wow, OWNING it and the rights to use it any way I want. Yeah, owning a computer game is just so important to you hippies isnt it....

Your general judgment of people based on renting a computer game is just pathetic. Get out of your sofa and do something you forum jockey, if it really is that important to you. BTW, I am being aggressive against you. No need to cowardly disguise anything here.

Hahaha, glad to know where you stand. It seems i am doing something by the way, exposing a point of view you dislike to as many people as i can at every opportunity, otherwise it wouldn't be sufficient to get you all riled up. No ill will against you still by the way, you just placed yourself on my "funny angry tantrums" list so thanks for the amusement

On a serious note, if you don't want to own your games and forfeit your basic consumer rights then that's your own right, but don't pretend that forfeiting the protection of the law on a personal level somehow makes you better than the rest or makes your choice applicable to the rest. If a person suddenly decides to sell himself as a slave that doesn't mean slavery is re-instituted for everyone, it's still contrary to the law. It's the same with everything else and like i said in the answer to the previous quote, if Ubi hadn't pulled the plug early on their previous DRM scheme you'd be very surprised at how many "hippies" with legislative powers would push to bring the issue to a final and undisputed resolution that stands against your point of view. So have a nice day and don't pop a blood vessel next time you disagree with someone because you like being treated at a standard less than what the law affords you. All i'm saying is everyone is free to be a masochist as long as they don't try convincing me that whipping is enjoyable, if they do they get on the "funny people" list.

[Wolf_Rider]

try that with your legally purchased right to drive after your license has been revoked for DUI.


Houses/ server operators just make a condition of service (paid membership) that cheats will locked out...

[seiseki]

Anyone familiar with steams VAC - Valve Anti-cheat, will know that it detects and logs file changes and anything tampering with the game and bans within one or two months.
It's random so people won't know what cheat that got them banned, that way it's harder to figure out a way to avoid the detection mechanism.

Only downside is that cheaters can play for up to two months or so..
But it will cost them 45€..

[Il2Pongo]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

try that with your legally purchased right to drive after your license has been revoked for DUI.


Houses/ server operators just make a condition of service (paid membership) that cheats will locked out...

You pay a fee to be "granted" a license for the privilege of driving. Administered by a lawful authority that of course has the ability to revoke that privilege.

No one is a consumer of licenses.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Il2Pongo

You pay a fee to be "granted" a license for the privilege of driving. Administered by a lawful authority that of course has the ability to revoke that privilege.

yeah... that's right


Sven...

I can't find the crayon button to sign with