Please keep the realism!

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Mechanical cable driven tachometers do not have 1000 rpm swings in their readings unless the drive cable is severely frayed, kinked, or otherwise totally worn out. What we have now is totally wrong.

Also the problem with Neg G cut out was happening in level flight with properly trimmed aircraft. It's not about push overs, which indeed should cause engine cut out.

Please don't make this a Red vs. Blue issue trying to compensate for the perceived over modeling of the Spitfire in IL2.

See, that's what's really starting to P+++ ME OFF!. Could you please upload a youtube file of you, in person, flying a RL spitfire or hurricane. Please hold up a sign that reads: "[Your nick] greets the banana forum". Then focus the cam on the rpm indicator. Thank you.

In any other event, I tend to believe the developers because they FKIN INTRODUCED IT in the first place! I'm pretty damn sure that they didn't just think: "Oh well, let's just add some random dial movement, but only on the rpm gauge. This will be awsum fun guyz". Right?

In any way, I hope this will be reverted and we'll get back the proper stuff. I mean, the 2s bomb arming delay was also a great improvement towards realism in Il2-1946 (though it threw certain people's mad skip bombing skillz off, despite others adapting in less than 15 min.) and we should continue to stay on this track, amirite?

Also, lol @ the guy on page 4 or 5 who doesn't really understand what his "hurricane pilot" writes.

[SEE]

Originally Posted by Redroach

See, that's what's really starting to P+++ ME OFF!. Could you please upload a youtube file of you, in person, flying a RL spitfire or hurricane. Please hold up a sign that reads: "[Your nick] greets the banana forum". Then focus the cam on the rpm indicator. Thank you.

In any other event, I tend to believe the developers because they FKIN INTRODUCED IT in the first place! I'm pretty damn sure that they didn't just think: "Oh well, let's just add some random dial movement, but only on the rpm gauge. This will be awsum fun guyz". Right?

Maybe this will pee you off too......quoted from TD member in the latest patch thread....take it up with him and maybe.....the pilots?



To those stating things like bring back the bouncing tacho needles etc because they were more realistic etc sorry but that is BS.

Real pilots are providing input. in this case the input comes from a current Spitfire MKVII and MKXVI pilot.

The alteration of the G cut out comes from multiple pilots, a Merlin and DB601/605 engine restorer, a current Hurricane II, Spitfire II pilot and a Hurricane I pilot. So before you start making sweeping statements like the devs are responding to 'the few' whinners then check your facts.

The devs have direct access to a number of current warbird pilots. One for instance is current on the following types:

Winjeel,Wirraway,Spitfire MKVII and MKXVI, P51D,P40E,P40F,Hudson,Harvard, and Vampire.

[Redroach]

ehmm... is this blue text some poor hoax attempt? It's BS but the same post lists the pilots the devs (WHO FKIN INTRODUCED THE BOUNCING NEEDLES FFS!) have access to?

anyways, video plx or it didn't happen and the devs win.

maybe I should just go to bed and hope not too much more will be broken by the "like-it-easy"s come monday.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by Redroach

ehmm... is this blue text some poor hoax attempt? It's BS but the same post lists the pilots the devs (WHO FKIN INTRODUCED THE BOUNCING NEEDLES FFS!) have access to?

anyways, video plx or it didn't happen and the devs win.

maybe I should just go to bed and hope not too much more will be broken by the "like-it-easy"s come monday.

And when you wake up, try not to get out the wrong side of the bed again.

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

And when you wake up, try not to get out the wrong side of the bed again.

Yeah, I'll try to.

[SEE]

The 'bouncy needle' as you describe it is just eye candy. It didn't affect me one iota. Geoffrey Wellum adjusted his PP for RPM at 2650 before combat and left it at that untill combat was done and dusted, I don't recall him talking about RPM other than in terms of preparation. (How he managed to set the 50 with a neeedle bouncing all over the place could be questionable though....)

As for the neg G, I find it far easier to manage in CoD than the Early Spit mod packs for IL1946 which are more sensitive. The needle isn't a big issue and not worth arguing over.

[Codex]

There is one thing that I never see mentioned in these discussions and that is the fact that while the Devs are using input from pilots currently flying these restored aircraft, do the restored aircraft use original cockpit instruments?

While I don't doubt for one minute the input they are providing the Dev is correct, I would like to hear whether or not the aircraft they are flying have the ORIGINAL dials linked to ORIGINAL sensors, or are they using current day technology to meet the flying regulations of which ever country the RESTORED aircraft are registered in?

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Codex

There is one thing that I never see mentioned in these discussions and that is the fact that while the Devs are using input from pilots currently flying these restored aircraft, do the restored aircraft use original cockpit instruments?

While I don't doubt for one minute the input they are providing the Dev is correct, I would like to hear whether or not the aircraft they are flying have the ORIGINAL dials linked to ORIGINAL sensors, or are they using current day technology to meet the flying regulations of which ever country the RESTORED aircraft are registered in?

excellent point

[ChosenOne]

+1 for realism

[Skoshi Tiger]

+1 for realism!

More traing for young players to understand whats happening.