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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-02-2011, 01:47 PM
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To reiterate, folk are making valid points. They are not just whining for the sake of whining. But, we have bought it, its a dog. I guess it all comes under the heading TBU, "True, but useless". Hardware is not going to make a difference as it stands. Fingers crossed the developers will come to the party.
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Old 04-02-2011, 02:00 PM
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Let me put this as a example P:

I ordered a brand new ford fiesta in 2009 (2010) model

when i got it there was several software related issues with it, usb not working, no voice control ect ect...

i could have nerd raged and demanded a refund for buying something wich contain stuff that does not work... but i liked the car so much that i decided to wait and see what happened... a few months later the dealer called me and said there was a software update for my car (sounds really wierd in my ears ) When i got it back everything was sorted and i was as happy with the car as ive ever been...

so if i had refunded the car, and gotten some other car, i would have missed out on all the joy this car has given me so far

there is also the saying: those who wait for something good, does not wait in vein

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Old 04-02-2011, 02:12 PM
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Let me put this as a example P:

I ordered a brand new ford fiesta in 2009 (2010) model

when i got it there was several software related issues with it, usb not working, no voice control ect ect...

i could have nerd raged and demanded a refund for buying something wich contain stuff that does not work... but i liked the car so much that i decided to wait and see what happened... a few months later the dealer called me and said there was a software update for my car (sounds really wierd in my ears ) When i got it back everything was sorted and i was as happy with the car as ive ever been...

so if i had refunded the car, and gotten some other car, i would have missed out on all the joy this car has given me so far
On the other hand, had you swapped it for another brand, which was even better than the hunk of broken junk you first purchased you could have enjoyed it far more as it did not have any problems, but now you will never know what you may have missed.

Anyone can throw out pointless examples with no relation to the current software, it does not change the fact this release was clearly forced by someone, no way was it ready for commercial release, I have tested alpha candidates in better shape.
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Old 04-02-2011, 02:24 PM
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On the other hand, had you swapped it for another brand, which was even better than the hunk of broken junk you first purchased you could have enjoyed it far more as it did not have any problems, but now you will never know what you may have missed.

Anyone can throw out pointless examples with no relation to the current software, it does not change the fact this release was clearly forced by someone, no way was it ready for commercial release, I have tested alpha candidates in better shape.
yep, you have a valid point there, but in the end im satisfied... i dont wanna part with it for another car, same goes for COD
and thats all that matters to me

Guess its called to like/love something... you should try to experiment with this feeling sometime

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Old 04-02-2011, 03:16 PM
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I undoubtedly apologize for the end of my last post. I got into a bit of a rant there. I guess I can understand how some people would expect a game to work at highest settings if they feel it should be able to handle it. I perhaps read SpeedStreaker's comments as more vitriolic than they actually are, and that is my own fault.

SpeedStreaker, although I understand you have a strong system I would like to know if you went through some of the config.ini tweaks, or if you only did graphical adjustments? Luthier has made a helpful faq in the Technical section that seems to have helped quite a few people including several of my own squadmates. I fully understand that some don't expect to have to go to such lengths for a game, but as I've been playing PC games for quite sometime I've found it tends to be par for the course on all but the most blockbuster titles, still frequent there, especially around launch.

I am genuinely sorry if I offended you. I also hope you and your squad will give this sim a chance after a few more patches.
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:20 PM
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To reiterate, folk are making valid points. They are not just whining for the sake of whining. But, we have bought it, its a dog. I guess it all comes under the heading TBU, "True, but useless". Hardware is not going to make a difference as it stands. Fingers crossed the developers will come to the party.
The developers have to come to the party or the party will be over before it has even started. We're at the beginning of a new series. If they can't optimize the game to run properly at mid settings on a top of the line computer it's over. No aditional theatres or long term support. It's that simple.

Joe sixpack that buys this at BestBuy after looking at the screenshots on the box is going to be very angry and bring the game back to the store. If there was a demo right now 99% would not buy it. Just like RoF when it came out. I tried that demo and liked the way things looked but it was unplayable on my machine. Most folks here are dedicated fans and more than a few guys have said they we're pissed they could not get their money back from Steam. We equate Oleg's name with a quality product. For a lot of first time buyers his name will now stand for unfinnished, unplayable, $50 down the drain.

When the game reviewers get their hands on CoD it'll get massacred in it's current state. Not Sim HQ mind you, they'll take the time to fiddle with it untill it runs the best it can be on their machines. The regular reviewers are just going to expect that it runs on a recommended machine right out of the box. It took RoF a year or so to get things working right before I bought it. I hope the CoD team has made the basic code so it can use the latest and greatest hardware.

All the car and other analogies don't compare to CoD. There is no other choice than this game. You can buy another car, toaster or whatever the hell people have come up with on the forum. There is no other WWII sim out right now, or in developement that is pusshing the envelope and has as much potential as CoD has. For the casual gamer it's just a matter of getting their money back. For me it would be a major disappointment. Ending on a positive note, I'm convinced the developement team will make this the simulator it should've been right at release.
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