For Adonys

[adonys]

You must be really mental challenged to not understand what I've said at the beginning of that thread.

Here, a full quote just for you:

This is for all of us to understand better what's this about, and what's the current situations of it. I gave up having to explain it in countless threads across multiple forums.


Guys, you need the facts, first before anything, and the facts at this moment are the following:

- MG (Maddox Games) started to address epilepsy issues in IL2 at UBI's request
- they've put out of the game (previously announced as for good, as in forever) some of them (there's no list of this, just Luthier's statement, but it included the cockpit view propeller's arc) - in both IL2 CoD and BoB
- at the point MG understood there's no time to address them all before release, they've stopped addressing the effects individually and started to put up the full screen filter - in both IL2 CoD and BoB

- after we've found out, and due to rampage on the forums, Luthier said 1C version BoB will accept an optional filter (or even removing it for good) and stop individually addressing effects to meet epilepsy requirements, but the UBI version CoD will have the filter permanent (or at least until all effects will be addressed individually, making the filter obsolete)
- Luthier also said that it might re-add/un-cripple the list of individual effects already modified to meet the epilepsy requirement in the 1C's BoB version before turning to the filter solution (yet, it might not equals for sure)
- after more ranting UBI sais it will make the filter optional

BUT

- making the filter optional doesn't mean they won't further continue to address (read cripple) effects individually in order to meet epilepsy requirements
- and even if they stop further individually addressing the effects, it also doesn't mean they will re-add/un-cripple the already modified effects crippled to meet the epilepsy requirements


We need an official clarification of these two problems from UBI/Luthier in order to consider the CoD at par with BoB

Of course, all of the above assuming UBI is not just lying to us in order to not drop the launch sales. We can only have faith in their word, and check it in time, by comparing the visuals from the two different editions (Cod vs BoB)..

I was not telling that the effects are wrong, I was just telling that LUTHIER SAID that they had to modify some effects (ie change them from how they initially implemented them in the way they thought they should really be) in order to meet UBI's anti-epilepsy requirements. And I was telling that UBI saying they'll remove the anti-epilepsy filter IT IS NOT THE SAME as also putting back those effects the way they initially were.

It's really funny to see how people are wrongly understanding something and distorting your words, and then accuse you of something you have nothing to do with.

Really funny..

[Vevster]

Originally Posted by adonys

It's really funny to see how people are wrongly understanding something and distorting your words, and then accuse you of something you have nothing to do with.

Really funny..

Yup, funny:

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look

"Camera shots

Really funny indeed

You already forgot what you wrote?

Originally Posted by adonys

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm. I haven't seen them on real airplanes,yet I have seen them on plenty of real helicopters. the same effect actually can be seen on any rotating blades (propellers, car wheels protection plastics, old trains spiked wheels, etc).

where are real pilots flying single engine aircrafts (and not flying them just once), to answer this?

You haven't seen it yourself, many here told you what they saw when flying, but you keep on bringing camera footage and car wheels....

[adonys]

You are not right, I've asked at some point where are the real pilots to say from their own experience about this, and after some posted, I don't remember me continuing to insist on that matter.

And even so, they might be wrong. They might have been accustomed with it, and not really seeing it anymore. There were also other pilots saying that it can be observed in certain conditions.

I'm sure it's a much more complex problem to only be answered with a simple yes/no.

And why would not the wheel covers effect be the same? when on wiki is clearly put in the same category named "wagon wheel effect", together with the propellers and some other examples?

Thing is, some people might be more sensitive to it than others.

And more, I am saying that I saw the effect with my own eyes on car wheel covers and helicopter propellers. Have you not seen this effect with your own eyes while paying attention to it while in a plane cockpit, or looking at an aircraft/helicopter propeller? And if not, why are you here to argue about this?

PS: it quite funny to see your "A turning wheel on a car is quite different than a propeller. Please look at these two different objects when they are not in motion, just to be sure...." statement. And I'm pretty sure you're not so stupid as, while they are not the same objects indeed (and no one claimed they were), in to not see the similarity of those same named objects..

And this stops here, I do not wish to continue a stupid argument with some who it's obviously too thick to have a decent argument. Have a nice day, mr. Vevster and adieu and welcome to my ignore list. Feel free to do the same with me.

[Azimech]

I have an old 1950's electric fan, three narrow blades, white plastic. I've switched it on and off a couple of times, not once did I see the effect of 3 three distinct blades rotating in the haze. You see the haze, or you see the blades when spinning down.

Then I did it again looking through my digital camera. Yes, now I did see the effect, on the screen.

Conclusion: No prop visible in real life. Anyone with a fan and a cam can do this experiment.

[robtek]

Some people are so limited that they dont allow reality to influence their point of view!

There is a saying related to einstein about the only two things that are limitless in this universe, but he was not shure in one instance.

[cato_larsen]

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

[robtek]

Of course!, someone had to spell it out!