For Adonys

[Il2Pongo]

that is an artifact of the filming, just like wagon wheels going backwards in a western

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

Well, Adonys, for someone who gets angry cause we don't get your point, it seems you don't get this fact: What you see in your videos are camera issues...with prop rotations...You don't trust real pilots on this forum ?
How can you be sure that what we see on film is the same as real life ?
Have you flown in a real prop plane ? Some here have and they assure us that we are not supposed to see much more than a faint glare..
So, who's right?

Salute !

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

Whether or not you see props in a video (or still shot) depends on the exposure length. Longer exposure means no props. Depending on the rpms the props become a full disc at around 1/60.

[adonys]

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm. I haven't seen them on real airplanes, yet I have seen them on plenty of real helicopters. the same effect actually can be seen on any rotating blades (propellers, car wheels protection plastics, old trains spiked wheels, etc).

where are real pilots flying single engine aircrafts (and not flying them just once), to answer this?

ps: and I'm not angry at all, just letting you know.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by adonys

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm. I haven't seen them on real airplanes, yet I have seen them on plenty of real helicopters. the same effect actually can be seen on any rotating blades (propellers, car wheels protection plastics, old trains spiked wheels, etc).

where are real pilots flying single engine aircrafts (and not flying them just once), to answer this?

I just did on the previous page. Like I've said, you hardly see anything of the prop in most cases, and I have flown at least 20 different single engine prop aircraft, among them the Tiger Moth that is in the game. I have also flown the Yak-52 and it's the same with that one (quite similar to a WWII plane even though it's a lot lighter and has a weaker engine - but it is a radial at least ).

EDIT: And as I just fly for fun when getting the time I don't have more than ~400 hours, but that is a lot more than "once" at least

[Shrike_UK]

i have flown a trainer prop plane, and didnt see any prop. apart from when engine was off of course

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by adonys

really? there you go, have a look. at some point, the camera is looking from inside the cockpit exactly how a pilot would look:

Originally Posted by adonys

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm.

You just can't randomly choose video or still images to show what it looks like in real life, it's pointless. It does not appear the same to the eye. That's not to say that you can't get a video camera with the appropriate shutter speed to give a similar image to that of the human eye, but if you're just taking random examples they will be different.

Originally Posted by adonys

it is not just a camera optical illusion, it appears the same to the eye too, and indeed the way it appears depends on the rpm. I haven't seen them on real airplanes, yet I have seen them on plenty of real helicopters. the same effect actually can be seen on any rotating blades (propellers, car wheels protection plastics, old trains spiked wheels, etc).

where are real pilots flying single engine aircrafts (and not flying them just once), to answer this?

ps: and I'm not angry at all, just letting you know.

Ok...Sorry if I said angry...Intense would be more accurate...

But there you go..2 pilots...Same conclusions...

Salute !

[svanen]

I'm a private pilot IRL, if we would have the prop visible like that it would be hard flying VFR.

That would be a real safety issue obscuring my view forward.

It looks just like that in the russian version with filter off and throttle idle. At high rpm and the sun low at 6'o clock you see a thin yellow arc from the props tip.

[akodonnell]

You can see the prop BECAUSE THAT WAS TAKEN WITH A CAMERA.

I've flown in single engine prop planes multiple times, in multiple kinds of aircraft, you can't see the prop in any of them.