Poll regarding Steam users

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by shadowze

Hmmm , IF forced to use steam I will not be buying at launch

In 3 months time when it is in the bargin bin for 4.99 I will give it a go

This decision is defo going to hurt sales

Im sorry but I hope you are being sarcastic, seriouly how could you make a post that states game sales are going to be affected when over 82% of the ppl on this forum have stated that they will buy cod regardless.... go bury your head in the sand some more, but be careful you might find yourself staring at a the earths inner core...

[Hellfire257]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Im sorry but I hope you are being sarcastic, seriouly how could you make a post that states game sales are going to be affected when over 82% of the ppl on this forum have stated that they will buy cod regardless.... go bury your head in the sand some more, but be careful you might find yourself staring at a the earths inner core...

Might I point out that that is at maximum 18% of missing sales. That is a lot of lost money when you are dealing with lots of money.

Do the maths.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Might I point out that that is at maximum 18% of missing sales. That is a lot of lost money when you are dealing with lots of money.

Do the maths.

No, it's a maximum of 18% of the forum population which is a very minor % of sales and will not in any way reflect the overall demographic.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Might I point out that that is at maximum 18% of missing sales. That is a lot of lost money when you are dealing with lots of money.

Do the maths.

Yes as was stated before 18% of a tiny insignificant forum.... compared to a huge very impressive tool (STEAM) with a huge user base.

Its time you took a peak outside the "Banana Forums" and realizes you need to do the maths LOL....how deluded can you get?

[Hellfire257]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Yes as was stated before 18% of a tiny insignificant forum.... compared to a huge very impressive tool (STEAM) with a huge user base.

Its time you took a peak outside the "Banana Forums" and realizes you need to do the maths LOL....how deluded can you get?

Feel free to post a poll on SAS or AAS then. Watch your mouth too. I've seen how many problems Steam has caused for the ARMA2 community (The group I'm in for example) - the majority being among the less PC competent people. However, we must not forget the strange method of running Combined Operations. I don't want to see the same happening to the IL-2 community.

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Feel free to post a poll on SAS or AAS then. Watch your mouth too. I've seen how many problems Steam has caused for the ARMA2 community (The group I'm in for example) - the majority being among the less PC competent people. However, we must not forget the strange method of running Combined Operations. I don't want to see the same happening to the IL-2 community.

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.

Respect not sure if I deserve any after my last few post... I have been a bit outspoken with my replies.

I don't mean to be rude but i just can't get my head around the moaning on this forum.

[Hellfire257]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Respect not sure if I deserve any after my last few post... I have been a bit outspoken with my replies.

I don't mean to be rude but i just can't get my head around the moaning on this forum.

Its not me, I'll be buying it for sure. I'm just speaking for others.

[Revvin]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.

You assume that everyone who says they will not buy will stick by that and thus is a lost sale never gained when its highly likely having the game on Steam will see it gain some sales, perhaps even replace those who say they will not buy it on Steam.

Even the most ardent boycott groups have broken down once the game is released. I remember the boycott groups for Modern Warfare 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 being full of members who were seen playing the game on Steam days after they released, so much for their resolve.

[Warhound]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

What you seem to overlook is the tens of thousands extra sales they will get due to using Steam.
Steam has over 30 million "active" (logged into in last 30 days) user accounts and those will almost all see an add for IL2: COD at some point..either while browsing the games list or during sales when it's put in the spotlight.

So the 2% that might not buy the game because of Steam will be dwarfed by the thousands who will discover IL2 thanks to steam and buy subsequent releases+tell their sim oriented friends.

In the end it's a no-brainer for any company really. (even ignoring the provided anti-cheat)

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

over 82% of the ppl on this forum...

Rather, that is 82% of the people that voted in a poorly worded poll designed to achieve the outcome that the original poster wanted to get.

Most players of this series do not visit or post on this, or any other forum.

So lets not invent some "facts" to support anyone's side of this.


And I would still like a reasoned response to the Steam requirement for all players, wether they purchased the game on Steam or not, from someone in authority at 1C or Maddox Games. Clearly UBI had nothing to do with this.