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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-08-2011, 08:44 AM
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I love Steam, it helps me remove stamps for my collection.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:02 AM
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Blogs been updated,you will need steam for offline play as well...
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:10 AM
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Blogs been updated,you will need steam for offline play as well...
Steam has a offline mode.
And who cares this day and age?
My internet connection is always ON. So whenever one of my pc's is turned on its online.
All people i know also have that.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:51 AM
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After reading this, it looks like the boxed version is little more than a single coin tossed at Oleg and team:

http://www.mcvuk.com/features/808/OP...etail-vs-Steam

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Old 03-08-2011, 09:55 AM
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Why steam is bad? Someone make a list of its flaws, cos' atm it's like: it is bad cos' I know it is bad.
I see most ppl, who hate steam, have used it only once or haven't at all.
Sorry for pasting my response from another thread, but this forum is becoming so monothematic, that I probably could paste it into another 5 threads and it would fit perfectly.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:02 AM
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If we're back to the topic, IMHO Valve is easily the "lesser evil" of the two publishers. I do have the game preordered because I want the DVD though.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:29 AM
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Well thats for sure the most impressive pro argument !



My personal conclusion: You pay for nothing, have no rights on it and your datas can be used for whatever. You buy a limited, terminable, non exclusive license and right to use and Valve is responsible for nothing. In future you won't buy shoes, only the limited, terminable, non exclusive license and right to wear them.

WAKE UP !

P.S.: ....my last post on this.
Bolds things to change context. Gripes about standard EUA verbage. You do realize basically every game you play says nearly exactly that Verbatim. I also suspect that your agreement to this forum says something similar about communications through it.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:34 AM
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At the end of the day,those who want CoD enough will buy it,regardless of what obstacles etc are put in the way.Some won't and thats a tragedy for Oleg with lost sales.
Unless we are hit with a serious bombshell in the next 2 weeks (like pay to play) then I will get it.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:44 AM
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I have no idea what steam is or Valve .. Actually i don't want to to know...

I refuse to go throught the three hundrent lines of the Steam - Valve Agreement -

and that is, before i issue a huge invoice (i charge a lot per Hour as a Producer & an Audio

Engineer) to someone for my time & effort ...

Who is going to pay for the fee of my lawyer checking out the possible sneaky claws

in your agreement ?


I agree to nothing!

I'm the customer - i will give my money only in exchange to be left alone - undisturbed - with frequently updated material (possibly paid one) - with the unlimited right to whine as much as i like about the product and without any software that will go scanning my drives and stuff ... (if this is the case - & this will have to be proven to me)

I understand that everytime you install something there are a thousent claws that you never read but you agree on and you click the agree button like a zombie ....

that doesn't make it less unreasonable ...

you click the agree button and on the other end a white collar freak is throwing a party ... on your expense ...

Too confusing ... keap it simple in a nice box and sent it to my place also!

Eh?
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:08 PM
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I have no idea what steam is or Valve .. Actually i don't want to to know...

I refuse to go throught the three hundrent lines of the Steam - Valve Agreement -

and that is, before i issue a huge invoice (i charge a lot per Hour as a Producer & an Audio

Engineer) to someone for my time & effort ...

Who is going to pay for the fee of my lawyer checking out the possible sneaky claws

in your agreement ?


I agree to nothing!

I'm the customer - i will give my money only in exchange to be left alone - undisturbed - with frequently updated material (possibly paid one) - with the unlimited right to whine as much as i like about the product and without any software that will go scanning my drives and stuff ... (if this is the case - & this will have to be proven to me)

I understand that everytime you install something there are a thousent claws that you never read but you agree on and you click the agree button like a zombie ....

that doesn't make it less unreasonable ...

you click the agree button and on the other end a white collar freak is throwing a party ... on your expense ...

Too confusing ... keap it simple in a nice box and sent it to my place also!

Eh?
So you have your lawyer read every EULA for every game you play? That is well wasteful of your money.
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