The goodbye thread

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by Erkki

I use Steam to play Red Orchestra and its mods several times a week. Last Saturday I couldnt, because the Steam kept using 95% of available download bandwidth despite the game being open. There is no option to stop automatic updates.

EDIT: I know that you can stop automatic updates for GAMES, but not the Steam itself. My Steam Client wants to update itself about twice a week, of course not telling me when its doing that, how much it has to download or how much there is left. Half of it is probably spyware and commercials.

So one day you had trouble with steam so it is spyware and commercials? Because last Saturday Steam supposedly used all your bandwidth it's a malicious program. If you have trouble with small updates that occur maybe once or twice a week you shouldn't be online anyway. Or, could it be that the problem you were having was an anomaly? If you can play multiplayer games online, you can update steam with no problem. All the times I've seen hyperlobby down and you whine about problems with Steam ONE SATURDAY.

[Erkki]

Originally Posted by Luftrofl

So one day you had trouble with steam so it is spyware and commercials? Because last Saturday Steam supposedly used all your bandwidth it's a malicious program. If you have trouble with small updates that occur maybe once or twice a week you shouldn't be online anyway. Or, could it be that the problem you were having was an anomaly? If you can play multiplayer games online, you can update steam with no problem. All the times I've seen hyperlobby down and you whine about problems with Steam ONE SATURDAY.

One Saturday? I gave an example. Happens on average once a week, probably because I dont have Steam open every time I have computer open, mostly exactly because of its tendency to use use all the bandwidth for hours. Keeping it offline I at least know when that is going to happen...

If I'd consider it malware I wouldnt use it, let alone give it my credit card info. You missed the joke.

Edit, HL down, when last, for how long?

[Novotny]

I already explained why that happens to you and everyone else.

[Erkki]

Originally Posted by Novotny

I already explained why that happens to you and everyone else.

And that is why I have the Steam offline now, and why with my current connection it will not be an option for il2:cod multiplayer...

[Novotny]

Well, cheerio then! Thanks for posting in the goodbye thread. I'm sorry you won't come with us, as we probably have many fine years of CoD and its corresponding expansions ahead, but I admire your strength of character in refusing to compromise your position.

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by Erkki

One Saturday? I gave an example. Happens on average once a week, probably because I dont have Steam open every time I have computer open, mostly exactly because of its tendency to use use all the bandwidth for hours. Keeping it offline I at least know when that is going to happen...

If I'd consider it malware I wouldnt use it, let alone give it my credit card info. You missed the joke.

Edit, HL down, when last, for how long?

Unless you have the worst internet on the planet you're exaggerating or something is wrong with your computer, not Steam. What is your bandwidth?

There are nut jobs afraid to use Steam because the government is out to get them, it's a virus, it's communism, it causes cancer, blah blah I have heard it all. You didn't word it in a joking manner.

[Erkki]

Originally Posted by Luftrofl

Unless you have the worst internet on the planet you're exaggerating or something is wrong with your computer, not Steam. What is your bandwidth?

There are nut jobs afraid to use Steam because the government is out to get them, it's a virus, it's communism, it causes cancer, blah blah I have heard it all. You didn't word it in a joking manner.

1/.5

I can keep track of different processes' bandwidth usage, no viruses or anything. My connection is easily sufficient for surfing, youtubing and gaming, but with Steam's autoupdates the latencies and packetloss skyrocket.

I have emailed a local importer if they have any info on the activation system...

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by Erkki

1/.5

I can keep track of different processes' bandwidth usage, no viruses or anything. My connection is easily sufficient for surfing, youtubing and gaming, but with Steam's autoupdates the latencies and packetloss skyrocket.

I have emailed a local importer if they have any info on the activation system...

Stop the presses! Large updates use large bandwidth. I choose to only update my stuff when I want to play it, and that interfers with me wanting to play it right now!

The Steam client updates tend to be very small. If a client update is bringing your internet to a screeching halt you don't have a very good internet connection. Game updates do pause when you start a game that is played online. What I see likely happening here is people keep it off most of the time and don't let it do updates over night or something reasonable, and instead choose to basically do all the updates at the same moment they are ready to play a game. I.E. user error.

If you only start your car when it needs to be serviced it will take longer to get somewhere. That is not a fault with the car.

[Erkki]

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo

Stop the presses! Large updates use large bandwidth. I choose to only update my stuff when I want to play it, and that interfers with me wanting to play it right now!

The Steam client updates tend to be very small. If a client update is bringing your internet to a screeching halt you don't have a very good internet connection. Game updates do pause when you start a game that is played online. What I see likely happening here is people keep it off most of the time and don't let it do updates over night or something reasonable, and instead choose to basically do all the updates at the same moment they are ready to play a game. I.E. user error.

If you only start your car when it needs to be serviced it will take longer to get somewhere. That is not a fault with the car.

And some people have better uses for their bandwidth when they dont have the free time to play, and dont keep their computers open 24/7.

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by Erkki

And some people have better uses for their bandwidth when they dont have the free time to play, and dont keep their computers open 24/7.

Better uses? You mean like downloading stuff? I don't really need much bandwidth except when gaming or downloading stuff. Browsing takes very little bandwidth so that can't be what you are referring to unless as I suggested you have a low bandwidth to begin with in which case I can see how Steam may seem inconvenient.