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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Yes I have and like using Steam 256 54.47%
Yes I have and dont like using Steam 67 14.26%
No I do not have Steam but will for CoD 52 11.06%
No I do not have Steam and will not for CoD 95 20.21%
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:25 AM
WTE_Galway WTE_Galway is offline
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This is kind of a biased survey.

The sort of person that is online and posting on forums is most likely already using Steam. (Most of the real life people I know that play or have played IL2_1946 bought it in a store and have never played it online ever, those people obviously never come to this forum)

That is going to bias the results a bit.
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:31 AM
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yes; the sort of person who embraces new technology is likely to be already using fairly old technology. They probably are biased as to its worth, as they established that a long time ago, hence their current use of said tech.
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:47 AM
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This whole business reminds me of a discussion I had in 1995 regarding the internet. I was rather keen on it, and was telling my friend about all these great guitar tutorials on tunings I had found, without needing to buy expensive books.

I went on about it a bit too much probably, because eventually he exploded and and said that 'there was nothing on the internet you couldn't get in a good library!' and a great deal more I can't clearly recall. I was shocked at the vehemence of his response, though we were drinking and had certainly reached a level of refreshment almost commensurate with the horizontal. I never mentioned those interwebs again to him, and eventually we lost contact.

I'd be very surprised if he still held that view quite so dearly today.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:11 AM
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I've been looking forward to this sim for years and been on this forum for a good while too but sad to say I won't buy this som now. I'll buy ROF instead even though it doesn't have much for oflline players. At least they eventually stopped the constant online requirement. Something Oleg and crew apparently did not learn a lesson from. I really don't play online so I don't want to even have a connection up when I play a game.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:27 AM
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I've been looking forward to this sim for years and been on this forum for a good while too but sad to say I won't buy this som now. I'll buy ROF instead even though it doesn't have much for oflline players. At least they eventually stopped the constant online requirement. Something Oleg and crew apparently did not learn a lesson from. I really don't play online so I don't want to even have a connection up when I play a game.
You have to be online only for the activation. Games in Steam can be runned also in Offline Mode.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:32 AM
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A lot of people have the wrong idea of Steam,thinking that games with it need a constant internet connection to work and that is not the case.Even more you can run games bought through Steam without actually using Steam.
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:29 AM
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I've been looking forward to this sim for years and been on this forum for a good while too but sad to say I won't buy this som now. I'll buy ROF instead even though it doesn't have much for oflline players. At least they eventually stopped the constant online requirement. Something Oleg and crew apparently did not learn a lesson from. I really don't play online so I don't want to even have a connection up when I play a game.
I'm afraid you got that backwards - ROF still needs a constant connection to play the campaign, which will also apply to the coming overhauled campaign, while Steam has a pure offline mode. I've blocked Steam in the Firewall by default and it works just fine that way.

I can't really say I like Steam, as I don't consider the features it provides as substantial (auto-patching and re-downloading are nice but nothing I really need either). But I have to admit it works for me, looks like a solid piece of software that isn't very intrusive and mostly gets out of my way. As far as DRM goes it's about as much as I'm willing to accept - I'm still more worried about that SolidShield stuff because it's new and may have some drawbacks nobody's yet aware of.

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Old 03-08-2011, 02:18 AM
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This is kind of a biased survey.

The sort of person that is online and posting on forums is most likely already using Steam. (Most of the real life people I know that play or have played IL2_1946 bought it in a store and have never played it online ever, those people obviously never come to this forum)

That is going to bias the results a bit.
What are you talking about? I have always played Il2 offine, at least 99% of the time. And I have haunted all of the forums. Do you think that just because someone prefers to play a game in offline mode means they never get on a computer and get on the internet?? If that were true how would I have ever found out about new game updates or patches and such? Or get help with a game problem. Heck, if I played IL2 but never got online on a PC I'd probably still be playing the original title from 2001 with no patches at all, just the original game. Oh wait! I guess people like us get game patches from friends by having them snail mail them to us on a CDR!! NOT!!

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Old 03-08-2011, 02:25 AM
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i really enjoy steam. it's simple and easy to use.

i don't see what the problem is.

it's the future chaps - deal with it.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:38 AM
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I'm using Steam a few years now, Halflife, TF2, L4D2, Il2-1946 and it works perfect. Downloading goes with 2 - 3 mb/s.
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