Give me some "holy sh... did that just happen" ideas

[Feathered_IV]

Mmmm. Nearly ten and counting for Il-2.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by TheGrunch

In fairness that is almost two years post-release.

I was just about to say the same thing

This isn't so far off from what Luthier said about CoD's dynamic campaign, mentioning at least a year of development before they can make something that will be on par with the quality of the rest of the content.

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Mmmm. Nearly ten and counting for Il-2.

I'm getting the impression that you're counting the time between release of the game and dynamic campaign implementation for RoF, but you add the total development time on top of that in the case of CoD.
Just because RoF wasn't around for people to bitch at the lack of a dynamic campaign two years ago doesn't mean it wasn't being developed, so if we want to be fair we should also add the number of years between RoF's start of development and the current implementation of a dynamic campaign

Also, i can't really see how a pay-per-plane business model can seamlessly intergrate with the admittedly impressive scope of their dynamic campaign. Much better to pay full price and have the entire theater of operations on a disk, than having to buy each aircraft separately depending on what kind of transfer your virtual persona gets in the sim.

In any case, if you want to make a fair comparison it would be better to compare both titles at the state they were in during similar timeframes relative to their release dates. That either means a time machine to go to the future and compare the CoD of two years from now with today's RoF which is two years from its release, or comparing the current CoD with the RoF of two years ago.
You know, the one that had only 4 flyables and even less AI aircraft (a couple two seaters, wasn't it?), almost identical triggers on every mission (after your flight of 5 engages a flight of 3, you can go wandering outside the briefed route and trigger two recons, rinse and repeat), unrealistic match ups (hey, let's see how your flight of nieuport 17s holds up against some fokker D.VIIs!) and a 2km visibility bubble preventing people from executing boom and zoom attacks. Now that i think of it, is that 2km visibility limit even fixed yet? I seem to remember people complaining on this forum a couple of weeks ago that they have to hunt for contacts using the zoomed in view for most of the time.

I have no interest in diminishing your enjoyment of RoF and despite my reservations against it there are some things it does pretty well. However, let's also have some perspective when making comparisons

[Feathered_IV]

My goodness. I must confess astonishment at such an elaborate algebraic formula (combined with a time machine) to work out if a dynamic campaign such as that described above sounds like fun or not.

I was referring to Il-2 when I wrote "Il-2", not CoD. The Il-2 series doesn't contain such features in it's Dgen program is what I meant. Directing artillery fire in particular is something I've always wanted to do

[ptisinge]

I would definitely say ""holy sh... did that just happen" if some of these events could happen during the campaign:

- Bird strike on take off or approach
- Aircraft suffers some technical failure (icing would be great, although I'm guessing it's not in. I remember how scary St Exupery experience with icing was, he could barely control the plane and get oxygen because of that, and it happened to him routinely, although his Potez plane was probably a piece of junk)
- The enemy makes a very sneaky attack run (ie intelligently scripted so its maximizes the chance of it being a complete surprise).
- The enemy brags or broadcasts over radio channel (Sabura Sakai went on a looping bragging display over Port Moresby once, Greg Boyington did tease the enemy over the radio - I don't know if similar things happened in the BoB?)

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

My goodness. I must confess astonishment at such an elaborate algebraic formula (combined with a time machine) to work out if a dynamic campaign such as that described above sounds like fun or not.

I was referring to Il-2 when I wrote "Il-2", not CoD. The Il-2 series doesn't contain such features in it's Dgen program is what I meant. Directing artillery fire in particular is something I've always wanted to do

Well, my bad then. I misunderstood because this is a thread about nifty stuff to be potentially included in CoD at a later date, so when you drew comparisons i thought you meant the new sim. Another casualty of keeping the IL2 moniker for the new series

[Feathered_IV]

I see what you mean. Surely won't be the last time the name creates confusion.

[Igo kyu]

Confused people presumably buy more goods than non-confused people, that seems to be the implication of most marketting.

[petosko]

A meteorite in a night sky!

[Xilon_x]

you now intercept enemy.
you now destroy bridge or destroy airbase or rail station or seaport.
you now destroy the ships or the car colum.
you now destroy the balloon or industrial area or house.

my idea is create new type of Target.....example.
you photo recon the enemy area.
you save the mens scattered in the desert after the parachute jump.
you save the man in the sea.
you launching troops conquered the area of ​​enemy soldiers.
you launch suply and arament or fuel to the border of battle.
you kill soldiers.
you transport of an important political figure whit addictional escort.
missing mountains with gallery.exmple obstruction of a gallery with a bomb.

[pencon]

How about ,wow ! The AI has some actual aggression ! Did I just finally get an FW190?D9? Did we just skip battle of britain and fast forward to the good stuff ? Did I just get strafed by an LA7? Yeaaahh Baby !