Thought for future expansions: Release Chronologically

[GnigruH]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I cannot understand why anyone would want a Polish or French addon.

They were both stomped into the dust... in record time. It was like take off and die for the Polish and French pilots.

So... a sad part of history, nevertheless there can still be those who want to enough historical abuse. LOL.

You are an arrogant ignorant .
"stomped into the dust... in record time", "It was like take off and die for the Polish and French pilots"... jesus, it was not a video game, talking like that about ppl dying defending their country in inferior machines is immature.

If it was take off and die, where did those luftwaffel loses came from LOL ?
Luftwaffel was performing like a piece of sh.t in these campaigns, when you take into account their technical and numerical superiority.
285 aircraft lost to all operational causes, poles 333, it's laughable .

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by GnigruH

You are an arrogant ignorant .
"stomped into the dust... in record time", "It was like take off and die for the Polish and French pilots"... jesus, it was not a video game, talking like that about ppl dying defending their country in inferior machines is immature.

If it was take off and die, where did those luftwaffel loses came from LOL ?
Luftwaffel was performing like a piece of sh.t in these campaigns, when you take into account their technical and numerical superiority.
285 aircraft lost to all operational causes, poles 333, it's laughable .

I doubt that anyone on this forum (nearmiss included) underestimates the bravery or effectiveness of the Polish pilots. I think he was just doubting the attractiveness of such a campaign to modern simmers! (correct me if I am wrong nearmiss)

One of the things that make the Polish pilots fight heroic was that they took off knowing that they would be facing a more numerous opponents in aircraft of a more 'modern' design.

To my mind this makes what they achieved even greater. Despite this, after their homeland was overrun they retained their fighting spirit and despite all odds made their way west and continued the fight from France and then England. Just at a time when England needed as many highly skilled and experienced pilots as possible.

There will be those among this community that will carry on about Germany never intending to go on with Operation Sea lion. Fortunately with the help of the Polish pilots carrying on the fight from England this argument was never put to the test.

[JG53Frankyboy]

well, in the VOW we had a Poland 1939 campaign.
The only fact that made it "ok" for the red pilots was that in the missions were not much Bf109 (we used the E-4/B because of its lower performance) and the weird DM of the P.11
There were also two missions where the P.11s had to fight Slovakian B.534 .. funny fights.


BUT, i also cant imagine that a lot of players would have fun flying, or better fighting in, a P.11 (or the polish bombers) in CoD qualitiy...at least not online.

France 1940 would be something different - that was a close call. Both sides with almost equal equipment. But i doubt we will see a french campaighn from the official 1C side. Perhaps 3.party in the future.

[GnigruH]

I think he was just doubting the attractiveness of such a campaign to modern simmers! (correct me if I am wrong nearmiss)

If that's the case, he could do it in less arrogant way, with different words .

[Ravenous]

Chronological releases seem kinda skewed through my eyes actually

If I've understood their plans it's going to be BOB, Korea, Moscow (, and then maybe the Med?) which seems better to my ears since the people screaming for Mustangs and early jets will get alittle something, then I will hopefully get my precious Butcher Bird with Moscow, and so on
covering plane types faster than a strictly chronological plan

Just think of it like this: we will get early RAF and LW first, then we'll get post and late-war U.S and North-Korean/Soviet types, then we jump back to early-mid LW and Soviet types, and from there we seem to be getting early-mid RAF(and maybe early U.S) and LW+Italy

Sounds very good to me, but then again I love crap-planes as much as I love the Mustang and the Fw190D-9

And if the Med will be the next theatre from MG, then what's after that from Galba?
the six-day war? the fall of Berlin?

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Ravenous

Chronological releases seem kinda skewed through my eyes actually

If I've understood their plans it's going to be BOB, Korea, Moscow (, and then maybe the Med?) which seems better to my ears since the people screaming for Mustangs and early jets will get alittle something, then I will hopefully get my precious Butcher Bird with Moscow, and so on
covering plane types faster than a strictly chronological plan

Just think of it like this: we will get early RAF and LW first, then we'll get post and late-war U.S and North-Korean/Soviet types, then we jump back to early-mid LW and Soviet types, and from there we seem to be getting early-mid RAF(and maybe early U.S) and LW+Italy

Sounds very good to me, but then again I love crap-planes as much as I love the Mustang and the Fw190D-9

And if the Med will be the next theatre from MG, then what's after that from Galba?
the six-day war? the fall of Berlin?

The Korean add on was by a third party who licenced the engine. As far as I know this hasn't changed, Just that the some of the developers from the Korean product have Joined Oleg to get the engine and Cliffs of Dover released before they can complete thir work.

Cheers!

[Ravenous]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

The Korean add on was by a third party who licenced the engine. As far as I know this hasn't changed, Just that the some of the developers from the Korean product have Joined Oleg to get the engine and Cliffs of Dover released before they can complete thir work.

Cheers!

Yeah, I remember that, and that we were shown at least one update with pics of the Mustang and a few other Korea flyables, so I guess I just assumed that Korea will be out before Moscow, even if that might simply be wishful thinking

[Chivas]

Luthier's latest comments suggest since joining Maddox Games his third party Korean project Galba addon in on the back burner for the foreseeable future. This suggests that he will probably working with Oleg on his next addon presumably the Med.

[JG53Frankyboy]

that is also my understanding... would be interesting to hear Saqsons opinion on that

[Sauf]

Doubt it very much if we would ever see a Polish campaign, I remember reading a book about Rudolf Hess's trial where the Russians wanted him hanged for his part in the early stages of the war, his American lawyer pointed out that because of Germany's non aggression pact with USSR, and the Soviet invasion of eastern Poland that they were as guilty as Hess at the time. Hess ended up with life imprisonment instead.

As this game is billed as a great Patrotic war sim in Russia, I doubt we will ever see it offically, as like the swastika issue in some countries, there are parts of history that would rather be forgotten.

Just my 2 cents worth

ps my vote goes with the Med, Malta, Tobruk ect, hopefully with RAF carrier ops in the future.

Cheers Sauf