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View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice small graphical issues in order to be able to use 6-DoF
Yes I could cope with this as it would add to my flying experience 270 85.44%
No, I'd rather have my head on a fixed stick thanks you very much 46 14.56%
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:07 PM
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Its simply unrealistic as its in its present form, you cannot move around that much in a fighter aircraft when strapped in, you are not wearing an inertia belting system in these aircraft you simply cannot move as given by 6DoF.
Any forward movement for gun sights was done by seat adjustment not the pilot leaning forwards.

Zooming forwards and unplucking your eyeballs from your skull and placing them on the canopy, rotating your head almost 180 degrees is worse than the present viewing system.
You obviously haven't researched your own head movement abilities. Try moving your head to the sides and see past your monitor. I bet you can, I can with my 24", sitting roughly 80cm away, and a normal 24" monitor is about the same width as a front canopy frame. The cockpits weren't that big either. See, because pilots are strapped in, they needed to move their heads quite a bit. Hence the term "rubber neck".
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:33 PM
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It depends how long/how much one has sat at computers...
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:04 PM
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Unfortunately the answers to this poll are so biased, it's ridiculous.

A simple Yes or No would have been better than introducing the poll-authors bias.

I think I'd like my 2¢ here in this thread.

I voted no.
For a few reasons, but I'll focus on one that gets overlooked.

I've been strapped in an aerobatic plane (a Citabria, to be precise). I couldn't lean forward if I wanted to. So, my head was "stuck to a stick, thank you very much." I had some limited "wiggle room" but not much.

So, 6DOF is a gimmick in a WW2 game, since you'd be strapped so damn tight into your plane you wouldn't be able to do what you guys would like to do with 6DOF enabled.

And you don't get to have it both ways. If you loosened your straps (virtually) to have enabled that freedom, you would need to face the consequences of a severe g-loaded maneuver not being properly strapped in.

Wanna add that?

I have a TrackIR. I've had a TrackIR since 2003 or 2004.
But in my opinion, to model 6DOF in a way that would be realistic in the paradigm of being strapped into a cockpit wouldn't make many if any of you happy.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:05 PM
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I've been strapped in a AT-6 a WW2 trainer with period proper chute and straps, and done hard maneuvers, I had more than enough wiggle room with my head.

I will admit, hold your head still against G to look through a gunsite would be difficult though.


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Unfortunately the answers to this poll are so biased, it's ridiculous.

A simple Yes or No would have been better than introducing the poll-authors bias.

I think I'd like my 2¢ here in this thread.

I voted no.
For a few reasons, but I'll focus on one that gets overlooked.

I've been strapped in an aerobatic plane (a Citabria, to be precise). I couldn't lean forward if I wanted to. So, my head was "stuck to a stick, thank you very much." I had some limited "wiggle room" but not much.

So, 6DOF is a gimmick in a WW2 game, since you'd be strapped so damn tight into your plane you wouldn't be able to do what you guys would like to do with 6DOF enabled.

And you don't get to have it both ways. If you loosened your straps (virtually) to have enabled that freedom, you would need to face the consequences of a severe g-loaded maneuver not being properly strapped in.

Wanna add that?

I have a TrackIR. I've had a TrackIR since 2003 or 2004.
But in my opinion, to model 6DOF in a way that would be realistic in the paradigm of being strapped into a cockpit wouldn't make many if any of you happy.
OH and Oleg is including 6dof in COD so even he thinks its an addition to the simulation.

Nuff said I'd say on that.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:13 PM
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4dof is available with 4.10m???how do i get the zoom to work with track ir
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:52 PM
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Voted Yes. I'm glider pilot. It's cramped. I can still move my head in all direction. Just not lean too much forward, but I can look around the mountings at least.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:06 PM
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You obviously haven't researched your own head movement abilities. Try moving your head to the sides and see past your monitor. I bet you can, I can with my 24", sitting roughly 80cm away, and a normal 24" monitor is about the same width as a front canopy frame. The cockpits weren't that big either. See, because pilots are strapped in, they needed to move their heads quite a bit. Hence the term "rubber neck".
Yup. And the game currently gives "rubber neck" the right treatment.
Also... head on a swivel. You can't really move that swivel forward and back and kiss your instruments.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:14 PM
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Frankly, I turn off the 6DoF option as the way it all sits I simply didn't like it and will do so stock or not.

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Old 02-20-2011, 10:25 PM
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Voted Yes. Including as a selectable option would be outstanding.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:31 PM
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Voted yes.

I use it with my UP 201 and it sure is nice to be able to lean this way and that, or duck your head to look around canopy frame, to see and track other a/c exactly as you would in real life, never having your head leave the cockpit mind you, nor notice and rendering problems.

If you don't have it, or haven't tried it you're missing one of the things that brings Olegs masterpiece even closer to perfection! It really is that good.

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