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View Poll Results: Do you like to see Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD?
Yes, I like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. 133 81.60%
No, I don't like to have Freetrack interface integrated in IL-2:CoD. 30 18.40%
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:39 PM
LoBiSoMeM LoBiSoMeM is offline
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well, that's slightly better...

yes, LoBi, the interface is the how... can you explain the what?

Point? what happened to the badgering over 6DoF? it looks like you'll happily settle for 4DoF now.

At least it is starting to sink in... I don't work for NP
NP must be happy with that, you are really pathetic. Even NP don't deserves this kind of employee.

I'm not "badgering over 6DOF", if you can't noticed yeat, I'm advocating for Freetrack Interface suport into IL-2:CoD, and in this case with 6DOF, available in IL-2:CoD.

But what I really can't believe is that I loose my time with you and you really believe that you achieve some point because ArmAII uses only 4DOF with FT and TIR. It's really too much nonsense for my brain!

Go take your meds, please. You really need it!

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Old 02-20-2011, 12:50 PM
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none of that explains "the what", LoBi...

and no, you're badgering anyone who opposes the hack tool, not advocating for inclusion... if you were "advocating" you should be able to and would have no hesitation to explain how it all works, to the layman. You would approach the developers with a clean product.

Now you may think you're being very clever , but you aren't doing your cause any favours... in fact you're doing it more damage than good.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:11 PM
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They think that's all "normal" in they amazing view of economics...

The normal view of economics is to make as much cash as possible, what's wrong with that?
Look at Apple: They sell you obsolete, or at least cheap, hardware for an astronomical price.
For two reasons:
1st: They can.
2nd: Consumers don't trust cheap stuff(I dont f.i., I hate Apple from the bottom of my heart though)


But let's get back to OM/Ubi vs TIR/FT

Both, FT and TIR offer their interface for free.
Implementing them is not free, you have to pay the programmer, even if it's done in short amount time.

One of the two(FT/TIR) make actually money with the interface/product they offer.

That means you can charge only one of them for implementing their interface.
Of course, they are only willing to pay if you cut the competition out - normal.

Sounds like win-win situation.
Unless, of course, your sales would suffer substantially because you only offer the interface for one device.

This last point is the only important one - this is what this freaking poll should have been about.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:16 PM
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Why should they do that?
If I sell something I try to find the point where the price curve cuts demand.
Even they sold triple the amount: 3x$40= $120, yet a single TIR5 flushes $150 into their account.
That would be kind of stupid.


Competition: I wouldn't call it competition when the alternative product is FREE.



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This point is ridiculous.
It's not about it can be made, but was made by some geeks who deliberately decided to work for free. They just didn't get paid for it. Cool.
Why do you think the latest version in from 2008, I mean, it's soooo easy?

I cannot enter in this debate as it will mean to enter politics not only economics... but, you can see for yourself if you look care enough why what you say is wrong.

look around you...
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:31 PM
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I cannot enter in this debate as it will mean to enter politics not only economics... but, you can see for yourself if you look care enough why what you say is wrong.

look around you...
A statement in which you refuse to make a statement, cool.

Problem is: That is the core of our lil' discussion here.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:38 PM
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none of that explains "the what", LoBi...

and no, you're badgering anyone who opposes the hack tool, not advocating for inclusion... if you were "advocating" you should be able to and would have no hesitation to explain how it all works, to the layman. You would approach the developers with a clean product.

Now you may think you're being very clever , but you aren't doing your cause any favours... in fact you're doing it more damage than good.
And this guy said that another person was using sophistry...

"The what"... Man, talk clearly... You go around, and around, and aroud... You talk about "mouselook"... You talk about "hack tool"... You talk now about "4DoF"...

And the funniest about that is that you still doing this with some "tone" that you know a lot of things, how world works...

Talk clearly one time in life, please! How do YOU think Freetrack works in ArmAII? You believe the way it works is illegal or imoral? Answer!

Talking about "doing it more damage than good" means nothing here, you are just sound pathetic and without arguments. By the way, until now I like a lot your "insights about nothing"... And they are helping a lot to my "goal":

- People can see that all the lies about Freetrack are vapour, that BIS can use Freetrack Interface without problem, etc.

If 1C don't include FT suport in the new title, that's not my "goal", they have their minds and objectives. I wanto to clarify that's don't exists any reason to NOT INCLUDE FT suport, and that some people will like to have FT suport.

You can't prove nothing against that... Just keep talking nonsense.

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Old 02-20-2011, 01:40 PM
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A statement in which you refuse to make a statement, cool.

Problem is: That is the core of our lil' discussion here.
Yes, and you don't know a thing about economic abuse.

Try learn why in the world we have some regulations regards that kind of think, instead that pretending we live in a world without any market regulation.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:52 PM
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And this guy said that another person was using sophistry...

"The what"... Man, talk clearly... You go around, and around, and aroud... You talk about "mouselook"... You talk about "hack tool"... You talk now about "4DoF"...

And the funniest about that is that you still doing this with some "tone" that you know a lot of things, how world works...

Talk clearly one time in life, please! How do YOU think Freetrack works in ArmAII? You believe the way it works is illegal or imoral? Answer!

Talking about "doing it more damage than good" means nothing here, you are just sound pathetic and without arguments.

The point about the acceptance (all of a sudden) of 4 Dof was the noise about only 3DoF in another flight sim.

I spent years travelling

I don't know, LoBi, that's why I'm asking

and there you are badgering again


*Edit...

it was a lack of regulation which brought on the GFC


and more badgering from you, this time to another

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Old 02-20-2011, 01:55 PM
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Yes, and you don't know a thing about economic abuse.

Try learn why in the world we have some regulations regards that kind of think, instead that pretending we live in a world without any market regulation.
File a claim, or stfu.
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:01 PM
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The point about the acceptance (all of a sudden) of 4 Dof was the noise about only 3DoF in another flight sim.
Playing stupid again. I'm not surprised.

The "noise" about "3DoF" is because your beloved company have access to 6DoF in this "another filght sim", and the "hack tool" can use just 3DoF...

I'm tired of so much stupidity. I'm bailing out!

You use twisted arguments, can't discuss with true in mind, just that usual crap...

Bye!
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