Friday update and duscussions 2011-02-18

[reflected]

Originally Posted by winny

May I suggest you also do your homework.
I'm looking at a picture of Spitfire Mk1B (QJF) of 92 Sqn Serial R6908 August 1940 and it has Night white undersurfaces. All Production Spits built between 29th April '39 and 6th June '40 had night white factory finish.

White tailband and spinner was introduced to R6908 (a Mark IB) 27th November 1940 (so you have a point there)

Are you sure that shot was taken in August? I know, b&w undersides were used up until early june, and then later in December, but AFAIK during the BoB 92 squad had egg-green/blue undersides:

http://www.markstyling.com/spitfirem...firemk1.35.jpg

Also, please note the font of the ID letters.

I also have a photo of QJF, and it was clearly taken after the BoB:
http://www.92sqdn.brushhouse.net/pics/spits-1.jpg

[Novotny]

Originally Posted by reflected

but AFAIK during the BoB 92 squad had egg-green/blue undersides

This is a common misconception; in fact, only their aeroplanes were painted in this way

[Novotny]

Good Lord Tree: you're just relentless. What on earth is a 'super remove FPS drop tool'?

I mean, I have to ask: you know in the real world - are you actually meaningfully employed? How come you are allowed unmonitored access to the internet? How many bibs a day do you get through? Are you actually the biggest troll I have ever encountered or am I being mean again to someone who is frankly utterly soft in the head? Is it the attention you crave? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU YOU POOR MAN?

[Armatian]

Simply beatiful, the only very slight doubt for me is the second shot, for being a day shot, the planes looks a little dark, and the specular too bright and small.
I saw a watch commercial with a spit and the amplitude of the specular reflections surprised me, wheren't so bright, but more broader, if that's even a word =P
All the others looks 10/10 for me.

Originally Posted by Novotny

Good Lord Tree: you're just relentless. What on earth is a 'super remove FPS drop tool'?

I mean, I have to ask: you know in the real world - are you actually meaningfully employed? How come you are allowed unmonitored access to the internet? How many bibs a day do you get through? Are you actually the biggest troll I have ever encountered or am I being mean again to someone who is frankly utterly soft in the head? Is it the attention you crave? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU YOU POOR MAN?

Its the new in game tool where you can record footage then process it to show the recording running smooth, ideal for movie makers.

You obviously dont keep up to date with whats happening, and like i said draw your own conclusions as to why we are not seeing any video.

[Novotny]

Oh I do tree: let me tell you I do. I just process the available information with a standard human brain.

[reflected]

Originally Posted by Novotny

This is a common misconception; in fact, only their aeroplanes were painted in this way

Hahaha!

[reflected]

Originally Posted by reflected

Are you sure that shot was taken in August? I know, b&w undersides were used up until early june, and then later in December, but AFAIK during the BoB 92 squad had egg-green/blue undersides:

http://www.markstyling.com/spitfirem...firemk1.35.jpg

Also, please note the font of the ID letters.

I also have a photo of QJF, and it was clearly taken after the BoB:
http://www.92sqdn.brushhouse.net/pics/spits-1.jpg

I just checked the Osprey Spitfire MKI/II aces book, and I was right. QJ-P was Brian Kingcome's plane, and the markings you're talking about were applied in late November. On the same book it's clearly visible that in August 1940 they didn't have night white undersides (The planes that is )

[winny]

Originally Posted by reflected

Are you sure that shot was taken in August? I know, b&w undersides were used up until early june, and then later in December, but AFAIK during the BoB 92 squad had egg-green/blue undersides:

http://www.markstyling.com/spitfirem...firemk1.35.jpg

Also, please note the font of the ID letters.

I also have a photo of QJF, and it was clearly taken after the BoB:
http://www.92sqdn.brushhouse.net/pics/spits-1.jpg

Pretty sure, it's in 'Spitfire the history' which is a pretty reliable book, could be wrong I guess. It does specifically say that the Air Ministry ordered all fighters to be painted with the sky undersurfaces on the 6th June 1940.
I think part of the problem is that the paintscheme was changed during the battle.

Theres also a picture of QJF QJR and QJD taking off in the 'winter of 1940'
that shows all 3 aircraft with night white, tailband and white spinners. The other feature in this picture is that the underwing roundels are right out at the ends of the wings.

[BigC208]

I think what Tree is pointing out is clear. How come we have not seen any "blow me out of my socks", high quality, high setting, top end computer video?

Because it's not gold yet Tree, that's why. Everything they show us before going gold can, and knowing this and the Sim HQ forum crowd, will be used against them.

On the other hand Tree, why ask for the above video anyway? You've made it clear several times that you believe, that if we get that video, it will be a rendered version in order to make it look smooth.

I shared you worries about not seeing higher quality videos. I ordered the best computer I can afford and I want to know what to expect. All I can do is wait. The leaked 109 E3 work in progress video put my mind at ease though. Read a lot of people pulled the trigger on preordering after seeing the 2 leaked videos. Pretty pictures sell products. So we both want to see pretty pictures, we don't always get what we want. It's up to the publisher now. Bringing it up every other thread is not going to make it happen.

Every weeks update looks more promising. The "blow me out of your socks" video material will show up in the few weeks before release after they go gold and the promotion machine goes into high gear. There will be pretty pictures gallore and we will all drown in high quality videos. Be sure.