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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-15-2011, 11:18 AM
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I'm sorry, but this video leak was by far the best promotional advertisement for the game that I have seen.

Please don't suspend the programmer. This was a great video.
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:26 AM
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I'm sorry, but this video leak was by far the best promotional advertisement for the game that I have seen.

Please don't suspend the programmer. This was a great video.
I agree, very nice indeed. A few more of those wouldn't harm.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:14 PM
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I'm sorry, but this video leak was by far the best promotional advertisement for the game that I have seen.

Please don't suspend the programmer. This was a great video.

Well, in the real world companies tend to take breach of NDA a wee tad more serious than we do. In fact, the programmer/beta tester could go to jail or get a severe find.

NDA are there for a reason (especially when MILIONS are at stake). Not saying thats the case here but NDA isnt something u can brake just because u "feel" like it or because "its not a big deal", or the least valid reason, to make us morons in here happy.

Should he be fired? I for one would seriously consider it, just like Luthier is, but probably wouldn't in the end (unless something more serious comes into light) , i would however not in a milion years let him of the hook. He vouched for the "beta tester" and now he has to pay the price. (if it was up to me or my company).


Maby we all should try harder looking at things from their "business sense" perspective more often rather than "as long as we get our Friday fix" perspective.

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Old 02-15-2011, 12:48 PM
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Well, in the real world companies tend to take breach of NDA a wee tad more serious than we do. In fact, the programmer/beta tester could go to jail or get a severe find.

NDA are there for a reason (especially when MILIONS are at stake). Not saying thats the case here but NDA isnt something u can brake just because u "feel" like it or because "its not a big deal", or the least valid reason, to make us morons in here happy.

Should he be fired? I for one would seriously consider it, just like Luthier is, but probably wouldn't in the end (unless something more serious comes into light) , i would however not in a milion years let him of the hook. He vouched for the "beta tester" and now he has to pay the price. (if it was up to me or my company).


Maby we all should try harder looking at things from their "business sense" perspective more often rather than "as long as we get our Friday fix" perspective.
These are also my sentiments. There's a reason for having NDA's.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:52 PM
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If Ilya were looking for my advice, I would tell him not to fire the programmer in question (Unless, as Baron said some collusion comes to light), because he was let down by his friend just as much as Oleg and Ilya were. In the end it was the beta tester who decided to break his word, and he should bear the brunt of the consequences.

I'm not surprised any more at how little a man's word means these days, but it still breaks my heart.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:08 PM
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If Ilya were looking for my advice, I would tell him not to fire the programmer in question (Unless, as Baron said some collusion comes to light), because he was let down by his friend just as much as Oleg and Ilya were.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:37 PM
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If Ilya were looking for my advice, I would tell him not to fire the programmer in question (Unless, as Baron said some collusion comes to light), because he was let down by his friend just as much as Oleg and Ilya were. In the end it was the beta tester who decided to break his word, and he should bear the brunt of the consequences.

I'm not surprised any more at how little a man's word means these days, but it still breaks my heart.

I agree with that to.

I do hope the programmer in question and 1C rips the beta tester (wont say his name) a new one. I know i would. As far as legal means could take it (in 1C case) if for no other reason than just for the hell of it since i can only assume that that's the sentiments behind the leak itself. That "dude" strikes me as just that kind of person.

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Old 02-15-2011, 01:40 PM
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I have a moral dilemma with this one, although I loath the guy for doing it I also appreciate seeing the clips.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:40 PM
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Regarding the programmer: I'm in no position to offer any advice, but if it were up to me, I would want to consider what sort of message my response to the leak would give to others thinking of disregarding the privacy agreements they signed.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:44 PM
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Yes breaching NDA is very seriouse and they could pursue legal channels to punish it, although it may be illegal to fire the programmer for it since he did not breach NDA, his friend did (not sure at all about russian laws but you could not to this in the US).

But again, it looks great, so why has all the footage we have seen looks crappy/jaggy/laggy/hand camera, if they were so worried about releasing footage of the game while "in progress" did they choose to show us rubish? This video is better quality and tells me more about the games look, feel and performance then everything we have received before combined. This is exactly what they should be doing more off (not the leaking, but showing videos like this).

Making a computer game is 2 parts
1. programming/making
2. Marketing/sales in order to facilitate 1

THe more of 2 = more of 1, I think this video has gone a long way to securing more pre orders for the game, without it I would not have (and was not going to) pre order.
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