Could 6-DoF ever be available in 4.2 if players could forgive small Graphics issues

[pupo162]

voted no.

Without a massive changes in a lot of stuff in the game 6 dof is unreliable. Even on modpacks very few, next to noone as 100% functioanl 6dof, and we all now the poly counts on those pits, who look awsome, are behond TD limitations.

[Mysticpuma]

I think this is why I made the suggestion that a switch in the Graphics/Difficulty would allow each individual their own choice as to whether they want the option. Strangely, if the poll has a higher 'Yes' rating it would indicate it would be welcome, but even if it is 50/50 that's exactly what a switch option woukd give, either half would switch it on and half would switch it off. Cheers, MP

[Red Dragon-DK]

Now we gona see how many, who have a tracking device. Or dont know how to set it up It´s only natural to vote yes, if you have one and know how to use it. I dont think the grafik is a big issus compair to whatyou get from 6DOF in my own humble opinion. Thats why I ALLWAYS fly with mods and would not dream of going back to the stock ones. It feels so wrong to having a frame blocking your view and cant move your head.

[Sven]

Originally Posted by Red Dragon-DK

Now we gona see how many, who have a tracking device. Or dont know how to set it up It´s only natural to vote yes, if you have one and know how to use it.

And it's natural that when you don't have a tracking device you vote no, why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has ) by making him able to cover almost every angle with his vision, even glitched vision which make him or her look in unnatural positions what in RL wasn't even possible.

but I'm not voting since this thread is probably meant for those with tracking devices..

[SEE]

Glitched? Some people must have a different version to me, my 6DOF is perfectly OK.

[Red Dragon-DK]

Originally Posted by Sven

And it's natural that when you don't have a tracking device you vote no, why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has ) by making him able to cover almost every angle with his vision, even glitched vision which make him or her look in unnatural positions what in RL wasn't even possible.

but I'm not voting since this thread is probably meant for those with tracking devices..

Q:why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has )

The same reson as you have a joystick and some have not. I know some who is flying with keyboard and not have a joystick. Few yes, but they are there.My piont is. It is a part of todays sim hardware. Some have it and some dont. Some have a bigger screen and some have a small. Sorry that argument is a bit old to me. I have been flying with TIR since 2003. So its not a new thing that can come as a surprise.
should one go for the lowest common denominator all the time, there would be no development. And personally I think it is time to upgrade to 6DOF is possible. Imagine if when we had to wait to the last could afford to buy a computer it could handle COD. I think game developers would go bankrupt if they had been unable to sell the last new and demanding sim.

But this is my personal opinion. And no one need agree with it.

[LoBiSoMeM]

And the funniest thing if that HT devices can be really cheap, even cheaper than a good joystick...

We live in the darkness... Sad!

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by SEE

Glitched? Some people must have a different version to me, my 6DOF is perfectly OK.

So is mine... and truth be told the unsightly "errors" are so fleeting when they do appear. I am certain that I am, not alone.. but I have yet to see an advantage offline or online gained from seeing a fleeting glimpse of whatever through a virtual 5mm crack in the pit.. I usually sit up pretty straight and whern I am trying to either track or acquire a bandit the last thing am trying to do is see through some minute seam.. I am either looking up or around.... Even in flying stock without 6DoF what I miss about the 6DoF are the little things.. being able to look around a spar, usually for home plate when I am landing... or around my joystick to see a gauge.. or even something as simple as blocking the sun by moving my head a bit to the left or right.. which was perfectly doable in a real warbird but usually because of the fluidity of aerial combat and flying in general was fleeting..

I think that there are several mods that could be implemented into the stock sim..In fact I think that that would go a long way to bringing folks back to the stock sim en masse.... If they swallowed their pride.. and added some of the mod variants... only the best ones... and some of the functional mods .. like the mod that allowed you to set a default speedbar as in metric or English.. and the mini map zoom mod... the skin mod.. the splashscreen mod.. I like having my custom Splashscreen.. and of course the skinmod...

While it is true that some of the mod planes are not as good as others.. some of the variants are quite good... and some like the P-51 actually corrected issues in the stock sim as evidenced in the better stability of the P-51 in 4.10. In the end it is about the sim. We all know that Oleg Maddox & 1C is the greatest combat flight sim developers to date.. there is little debate about that and if there were .. the product would speak for itself.. and CoD will only serve to cement that fact in the books...

Originally Posted by klem

These 'glitches' are minor, some small missing graphics areas in a few cockpits when you head is out to the side (as far as it will allow, not a ridiculous amount). Have the guys saying 'No' even seen the mods 6DOF cockpits in action?

As for 'unfair advantage', first of all the glitches are so small they offer no advantage especially in a moving arena and in any case TrackIR offers an advantage over anyone that doesn't have it, 6 DOF or not, not to mention Joysticks versus mouse/keyboard, 4GHz i7 950/GTX580 versus 1.6GHz Pentium4/7600. You can argue the 'equipment' side for ever, it's meaningless.

Yes I hate padlock from my own point of view, it's an arcade setting and it does my head in.

Pretty much..




I'd get shot down a lot quicker if I were trying to find some kind of advantage in a gap like that.. and mind you.. I have to hold my head in that position to see that view.. Usually thiongs are happening too fast for that to happen.

[LoBiSoMeM]

When I said that these glitches are "minor", I almost got stoned by TD and all fanboys...

I voted "yes", but I don't have great hopes, as Freetrack suport in IL-2:CoD. Consumers and 1C/TD have diverse opinions about what is best for us flyers.

But let's see what's happens...

[klem]

Originally Posted by Sven

........ why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has ) by making him able to cover almost every angle with his vision, even glitched vision which make him or her look in unnatural positions what in RL wasn't even possible.

but I'm not voting since this thread is probably meant for those with tracking devices..

Because the world has moved on and we know it isn't flat any more.

An option to have it on gives choice and you don't have to use those servers if you don't want to (but do you remember the mod/Vanilla server numbers before 4.10 came out?). While the graphics won't always be perfect the immersion will be improved and that has far more value than having your head stuck in a frame with perfect graphics just because the view is so limited. There are other things in Vanilla IL-2 that aren't perfect anyway.

I would think the mods guys would have no problem working with TD given what they have achieved already.

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I'm voting, but.....
1. Its pointless, you could never get a proper poll through a thread
2. The players have already voted, just think back to the pre-4.10 server numbers and what they will be again when the mods community catches up with 4.10. I believe the single most preferred mod is 6dof.