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Old 02-08-2011, 02:34 PM
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Oh, and your Bf is an unstable gun platform? And it behaves badly at near-stall speed?
Now, i fly the Bf's a lot, you know

Do you know a plane in the game being a bad gun platform?

Whiner? Rafwhiner? You know, I have already been called Luftwhiner, too, some years ago; while flying for the reds. Seems these among us who cannot speak very well, like using this dog's language. It s simpler. That could explain why many cannot write a post without saying 'Whine'.
Well, first the way you worded your complaint spelled "whine", not only for me.
Second, thats not "my Bf", i haven't mentioned a BF at all.
Third, my experience what happened often in duels Bf109F4 vs Spit Vb is that, that when the 109 climbs away after a diving attack, the 109 gets snipered by that spit hanging on its prop from 300 to 500 m away; impossible if not a very stable gun-platform.
Forth, i point to the post of Blackdog_kt
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:40 PM
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Well, first the way you worded your complaint spelled "whine", not only for me.
Second, thats not "my Bf", i haven't mentioned a BF at all.
Third, my experience what happened often in duels Bf109F4 vs Spit Vb is that, that when the 109 climbs away after a diving attack, the 109 gets snipered by that spit hanging on its prop from 300 to 500 m away; impossible if not a very stable gun-platform.
Forth, i point to the post of Blackdog_kt
Calling someone names is much easier than answering what he said with arguments. Your such 'arguments', against a person - never prove a thing about the subject being talked about, and make my answering you actually quite unnecessary. So keep using the dog's language with the guys you mention as sharing your aptitudes; what people say often tells more about them than about their subject.

You got a picture of a Bf, some 500 pixels long in your forum logo, together with a Luftie unit badge- and you say you didn't even mention a Bf

The Bf is capable of hanging on its prop at even lower speeds that the Spit, or almost any other plane in the game. Its excellent stall qualities are due to the automatic slats on it's wings. You have been using them in the situation you describe, too - climbing steeply and at a low speed from the Spit.
Slow climb is an extremely risky thing - most kills in the game are on the planes climbing steeply, because they are such an easy a target. So be sure the opponent hasn't got enough energy to point the nose at you. If he can, with the speed sitill a bit above its stall, flaps down, and if you being closer than 500 m - any cannon armed plane ll cook you, and the MG-armed ones have a good chance of smoking your engine. I shot heaps of F4 's down in exactly the situation you describe, at ranges up to and sometimes over 500m... in an I16.

Even if you cannot hit anything at 500 m yourself, don't make a very common mistake thinking nobody can. A friend could hit me persistently at 700 m at almost any angle.

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