4.101 RC - List of fixes

[PE_Tihi]

Your Spitfire FM is instable about the pitch and the yaw axes to the extent that I suspect the change a malicious one. The plane has an obnoxious nose up trim, too, but that is a smaller problem.
No other plane in game handles so badly. In a vertical stagnation climb, the nose has no intention of falling down, like all the other plane's do. The thing is so unstable that it falls like a leaf, until you forcibly push the nose down, correcting strongly the askew flight with the rudder and elevator. Someone here said something about 'greater yaw freedom...'LOL!LOL!
Either you havent got any idea what you are doing to the FM or you 're simply trying to sabotage the Spit.
In both cases, I suggest you better revert to the old Spitfire FM. And please do not touch any other FMs; this has been bad enough.

[AndyJWest]

"Your Spitfire FM is instable about the pitch and the yaw axes to the extent that I suspect the change a malicious one." Well, don't use the patch if you don't trust it. TD have to put up with enough whining without having to listen to half-baked conspiracy theories.

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

"Your Spitfire FM is instable about the pitch and the yaw axes to the extent that I suspect the change a malicious one." Well, don't use the patch if you don't trust it. TD have to put up with enough whining without having to listen to half-baked conspiracy theories.

I would be perfectly content not to use it, but most of the servers do, as you know.
As for your conspiracy theory bs, wont even comment it. I flew the Spit a lot in 4.09 so I feel in a position to observe and compare. Judging by your comment, you are not.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by PE_Tihi

Your Spitfire FM is instable about the pitch

"The aeroplane ... tends to be a little unstable in pitch "

From Spitfire pilot handbook.

If you're not interested in real life comparison, you can go the the difficulty section and turn off "stalls and spins".

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by JtD

"The aeroplane ... tends to be a little unstable in pitch "

From Spitfire pilot handbook.

If you're not interested in real life comparison, you can go the the difficulty section and turn off "stalls and spins".

All the planes in this game have been given stronger damping factors and more pleasant flying qualities than RL. How do you want to justify making the Spitfire the only example of puritan realism in that sense? Oleg knew very well if he put that into the game, no one 'll ever obtain a hit, and the game hype would be melting like the wax on the candle. Now comes DT, and puts it into a single plane only-into the Spitfire.

Or we can consider British the idiots, content to fly an instable plane and not coming to the idea of enlarging the vertical stabilizer slightly like all others did to improve, among other things, the hit chance for their pilots?

So please, spare me your BS. The idea of turning something off can come to an offline flyer only, anyway. This is the 9th year I ve been flying this, which I do regret sometimes. When you talk about something 'I can't deal with' in this game , I dont know whether I should laugh or weep.

[[URU]BlackFox]

I can only say... Let us hope that the happenings with the spit are the beginning of the end for the UFOs in this game.

TD seems to have researched before making every change. Sure, in the case of the bombs there has been a long discussion already, but i saw papers thrown on the table, not just complaints in the wind, and they are willing to change things that are well documented.

So, with some RL data, maybe you can get them to revert the changes.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by PE_Tihi

...I dont know whether I should laugh or weep.

Whining is pretty close to weeping, so guess that would be the best thing to do.

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by JtD

Whining is pretty close to weeping, so guess that would be the best thing to do.

You wont find a single word of insult in the closed thread or in this one; so how do you justify your persistent tries to insult me in your posts?

Is that something you usually do when you don't like the other people's opinions?

[JtD]

Hm, let me check your first post in that closed topic ... insult ... insult ... insult ... insult. You know, accusing people of bias and sabotage is pretty insulting as such. In particular if you pull these accusations out of thin air, with nothing to back it up.

And you wonder why the responses weren't all nice an charming?

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by JtD

Hm, let me check your first post in that closed topic ... insult ... insult ... insult ... insult. You know, accusing people of bias and sabotage is pretty insulting as such. In particular if you pull these accusations out of thin air, with nothing to back it up.

And you wonder why the responses weren't all nice an charming?

Did I insult you personally in any manner?

If any of the people who made that FM feel insulted by my comparing what they done to the Spit FM with a sabotage, let them say so; its none of your worries unless you made the FM yourself. Then we'll see whether I got arguments or not. I put enough of them in front of your closed eyes already.

You didn't seem to find any unfairness in this FM up till now. Maybe I didn't explain it well enough; a bit above in the thread is my last try.

And if nothing I may say can change your opinion, I just heard the Spit FM is going to be corrected extensively in the upcoming patch.