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Old 02-05-2011, 08:21 AM
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thanx guys for all your input. Even though I would love this set, it seems to me that there is a risk I have to wrestle with the gear, or with Log support... considering the cost, I think I'll pass...

Actually I have no clue where to go to now.. The Hog and the X65 is way too expensive as I won't get any peds.... hmm I have to think hard about it.
I just love my G940... I think the reversal bug in the thottle and pedal axis is just academic. You will not notice it if you don't really try to... I have never noticed it and I'm rather picky. How often do you really slowly apply rudder in one direction and then really slowly apply it in the other direction? And notice that small error? Last night I flew a bunch of bomber missions which I have done lately (getting old?) using Thors bombing guide (as usual) that requires you to set the throttle at 80%, and I have not noticed that reversal bug while doing that so when should I then do it accept if I really want to find it?
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:01 AM
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where did u buy it ?? Webhallen?
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Old 02-06-2011, 06:45 AM
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where did u buy it ?? Webhallen?
Nope, PC Doctorn had the best price back when it was released so I bought it there but I don't recommend them for a bunch of reasons (start with the name? )
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Old 02-06-2011, 03:51 AM
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I think the reversal bug in the thottle and pedal axis is just academic. You will not notice it if you don't really try to... I have never noticed it and I'm rather picky. How often do you really slowly apply rudder in one direction and then really slowly apply it in the other direction? And notice that small error?
That's just it, it is NOT a 'small error' it is a 'big reversal spike error'

Such that when your moving your rudders (fast or slow does not mater) say to the left you will get a sudden spike to the right as if you kick full right rudder, which in turn makes the nose of your plane wag back and forth and thus messing up the shot you were trying to line up with a little rudder to the left.

As for not noting it now, keep your fingers crossed and enjoy it while you can in that I did not notice it much at first either, but with time the problem showed up and only go worse with time/usage.
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That's just it, it is NOT a 'small error' it is a 'big reversal spike error'

Such that when your moving your rudders (fast or slow does not mater) say to the left you will get a sudden spike to the right as if you kick full right rudder, which in turn makes the nose of your plane wag back and forth and thus messing up the shot you were trying to line up with a little rudder to the left.

As for not noting it now, keep your fingers crossed and enjoy it while you can in that I did not notice it much at first either, but with time the problem showed up and only go worse with time/usage.
OK, It may be that haven't used it that much then? Since I bought it 1.5 years ago I guess I don't have more than 20-30 flight hours on it... Kids, wife, work and those darn friends stop my rightfully deserved sim time all the time
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:36 PM
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OK, It may be that haven't used it that much then? Since I bought it 1.5 years ago I guess I don't have more than 20-30 flight hours on it... Kids, wife, work and those darn friends stop my rightfully deserved sim time all the time
That or you just one of the lucky ones.. One thing you should do is bring up the calibration routine like pupo162 did in his video of the throttle where he was showing the R1 & R2 noise when moving the RHS throttle (on page 2) than do the same for your rudder and than move them and watch for the spike.. It is visable on mine.. If nothing more than a data point.. than check it again in a month or so and see if you notice it getting worse with time
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That or you just one of the lucky ones.. One thing you should do is bring up the calibration routine like pupo162 did in his video of the throttle where he was showing the R1 & R2 noise when moving the RHS throttle (on page 2) than do the same for your rudder and than move them and watch for the spike.. It is visable on mine.. If nothing more than a data point.. than check it again in a month or so and see if you notice it getting worse with time
Yes, many posts so I guess you did not read mine saying that my 1.5 year old set had bad spikes on R1 and R2 like pupo162:s when moving the right stick. Noticed it as 4.10 brought the axis for radiator which I assigned to R1 that I hadn't used yet and thats when I got confused. Had not used R1 and R2 before so I don't know if the error was there from start I got my replacement last week and it has no problems on any axis (have tried the pedals for a long time in the windows setup dialog, fast or slow but they move like on rails in the calibrate dialog - which goes for the throttle to - nice steady axis with no spikes at all). Maybe they have fixed it as this set is brand new? I cannot find any manufacture date on it - anyone knows it there are different hardware revisions and how to see that?

EDIT: My old set had the P/N 842-000002 - and the new one has 842-000004. Could that indicate some change? What do you guys have?

A note to any new G940 users that may read this. DO NOT forget to calibrate the throttle and joystick in the windows device dialog like we did in the old days. The throttle axis, R1,R2, the three trim wheels and the mini stick NEED calibration or otherwise they will not work good and act weird. This is especially noticeable on the throttle axis!

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Yes, many posts so I guess you did not read mine saying that my 1.5 year old set had bad spikes on R1 and R2 like pupo162:s when moving the right stick. Noticed it as 4.10 brought the axis for radiator which I assigned to R1 that I hadn't used yet and thats when I got confused. Had not used R1 and R2 before so I don't know if the error was there from start I got my replacement last week and it has no problems on any axis (have tried the pedals for a long time in the windows setup dialog, fast or slow but they move like on rails in the calibrate dialog - which goes for the throttle to - nice steady axis with no spikes at all). Maybe they have fixed it as this set is brand new? I cannot find any manufacture date on it - anyone knows it there are different hardware revisions and how to see that?

EDIT: My old set had the P/N 842-000002 - and the new one has 842-000004. Could that indicate some change? What do you guys have?

A note to any new G940 users that may read this. DO NOT forget to calibrate the throttle and joystick in the windows device dialog like we did in the old days. The throttle axis, R1,R2, the three trim wheels and the mini stick NEED calibration or otherwise they will not work good and act weird. This is especially noticeable on the throttle axis!
Has the "new" stick still been behaving properly? I have been considering one of these and am hoping that Logitech will fix the wiring that's causing the rotary spiking
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