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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-29-2011, 10:07 PM
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BOBC; I hope you only read the constructive feedbacks in this thread and ignore the complete idiots. Oleg wants everything to be perfect and you want to help him. What can be more genuine than that?
Thanks..I take on board comments from those that appear to have a level head.

Some can see this is simple factual info and backed up with a long list in what is a small cockpit space so making a notable change. Others are by the nature of their replies arcaders and not caring so much for Olegs aims, and some have a foot in both camps, thats human nature and all are allowed their take on what they want from it, though for arcaders to see it released to their standard at the expense of others missing out on what they had hoped for is an area of debate no doubt. The arcaders are no doubt frustrated that they havent had a chance to play by now, but for those awaiting what promises to be above that level, an accurate representation of the Battle of Britain, they are prepared to wait for such. To that end I personally would like to see a Mk1 cockpit and from feedback others would also. Oleg must decide though at what point he stops. It would appear he has surpassed the arcader level and is holding out to achieve far higher goals. I would dare to say the degree of accuracy and time spent on a subject should be proportional to the importance and standing of that subject with perhaps a baseline of criteria to ensure all modelled items are to a certain level of accuracy and artmanship. (have I just invented a new word ) so the spitfire would require more attention and need to represent a Mk1.


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Old 01-29-2011, 10:39 PM
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BOBC,

I'd like to add my support to your argument. Your request is perfectly reasonable given what the sim is trying to achieve. I've spent much time flying later model Spits in IL2 and was looking forward to seeing and feeling the difference of the early marks. A generic Spit cockpit will simply fail to impress many of us, especially since the early manual is included in the collectors edition.

I do have faith that Oleg will deliver at some point though.
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Old 01-29-2011, 10:56 PM
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I too would prefer the historically correct pits, as far as they exist as such. But I don't see how this makes the difference between "arcade" and "realistic". Same for the people who can live with such inaccuracies.

We've had some people pointing out inaccuracies in the past, and many of them have already been fixed. With 2 months before release this one certainly won't though.
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Old 01-29-2011, 11:23 PM
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-The best way to contact Oleg is when he is certain to be home...say at 2 o'clock in the morning.
-A personal visit will make a much better impression.
-Make sure you explain very carefully that his Spitfire model is wrong, wrong, wrong, and that you certainly have a great understanding of his misgivings.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:24 AM
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The only time anyone official appears to read, or comment on, anything in these forums is if you place a post in the first three pages of a Friday update thread.

If you put something relevant there (hopefully the next update - videos, apparently - will feature a Spit cockpit) you can be pretty sure Ilya or Oleg will read it, even if you don't get any response.

Good luck.

PS. Oleg's inbox appears to be perpetually full but you could try PM'ing Luthier.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:36 AM
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The difference seem substantial. Of course its possible the Spitfire cockpit in the updates is not actually the layout of the Mk I we will see in the final release version.

Do remember many of the posters that "do not care about the cockpit" do not care because they will be flying online in wonder women mode with cockpit off anyway.
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:11 PM
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A picture speaks a thousand words. With some posters saying whats all the fuss over one gauge or switch. Here is the cockpit as seen on the Collectors edition site http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en...s-Edition.html , an apparent current image. Now it is said that the sim features a Mk1a, 1b and a ll. If the image is of the 1a or 1b then marked in yellow are the errors. Sometime in the future the team will need to deal with these, they for the moment give us a MkV. If the team has photographed a Mk1 surviving nowadays then these represent the modifications carried out since the Battle of Britain, but I would hope they have not fallen into the trap of thinking what they see now has not changed since 1940. We have no readout for the 48 gal tank, no landing lamp control, no time of trip clock as per 1940, no amps gauge, no dual fuel cock, things that are part of the actual control of the aircraft. If that is , the image is supposed to be a Mk1.

I hope the image allows better understanding of my hopes for a Mk1, and of those others who have expressed a wish to get it right. I realise there are those who dont care what it looks like, quite happy to have grey/green spits attacking 109F's, loving the beautiful artwork, but there are those who want 1940 and the basic stuff accurate. I see the Battle of Britain Cliffs of Dover Collectors box on that site has a non Battle of Britain later war camo and roundels artwork cover by the way, is not the cover of such an item important to get right, perhaps not.

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