Friday 2011-01-28 Dev. update and Discussion

[Trumper]

Hi Foobar, i guess we will see when it is out,the proof will be in the pudding.
Generally it is quite a lush green over here ,lots of moisture .We do have dry spells where the grass can go brown after a few weeks without rain but that isn't too normal.
I started looking for the weather forecasts during the BoB and came across this fascinating web site,unfortunately i have to go to work so won't have time to read it but looks brilliant.
http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/631...weather-diary/ hope others like it.
I guess the discussion over colours is all down to individual beliefs ,my comments were made because of the irony of the arguments being made by people who don't live here LOL.

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by Trumper

Hi Foobar, i guess we will see when it is out,the proof will be in the pudding.
Generally it is quite a lush green over here ,lots of moisture .We do have dry spells where the grass can go brown after a few weeks without rain but that isn't too normal.
I started looking for the weather forecasts during the BoB and came across this fascinating web site,unfortunately i have to go to work so won't have time to read it but looks brilliant.
http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/631...weather-diary/ hope others like it.
I guess the discussion over colours is all down to individual beliefs ,my comments were made because of the irony of the arguments being made by people who don't live here LOL.

Peace, mate

[major_setback]

I personally think the greens we saw in this weeks update are the best so far. They have been toned down. I don't mind a bit more saturation myself actually.

I think the shade of green has been wrong in the past though, and people are confusing the issue. Too strong a colour when it is the wrong colour looks awful.
The shade has improved a bit this week though, and less saturation helps.

I think it will gradually be improved though...the video shows pefectly acceptable colours to me.


Sun actually makes greens look bright ...take a look out of the window in a month or two and you will be shocked!



Those photos posted showing darker greens are underexposed (dark), wrong season, and look incorrect.

I agree that some of the textures have wildly bright greens of the wrong shade when seen close up.


...Perfection might take a week or so longer than we can wait.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

Peace, mate

Agreed Peace and best wishes

[philip.ed]

Discussing wetness is pointless at this stage. The landscape of England in CoD should represent how it would have looked in 1940. In other wrods, burnished, dry, and extremely hot.
I'm sure monitor tweaking could have an effect, but why should most users have to do that? Why can't the product be shipped out as perfect as possible? Clearly many UK residents, like myself, view these shots as anything but Blighty. I look forward to seeing what it's like on release, but ATM I agree completely with Trumper.
Just my two pence, and I'm not wishing to start an argument with anyone who thinks differently. You won't convince me to your side of thinking, so preserve your itching typing fingers for someone else

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Discussing wetness is pointless at this stage. The landscape of England in CoD should represent how it would have looked in 1940. In other wrods, burnished, dry, and extremely hot.
I'm sure monitor tweaking could have an effect, but why should most users have to do that? Why can't the product be shipped out as perfect as possible? Clearly many UK residents, like myself, view these shots as anything but Blighty. I look forward to seeing what it's like on release, but ATM I agree completely with Trumper.
Just my two pence, and I'm not wishing to start an argument with anyone who thinks differently. You won't convince me to your side of thinking, so preserve your itching typing fingers for someone else

If you want it as real as possible, then a user MUST tweak their monitor. This is because you have to have a baseline definition of what "real colors" are. It makes sense for the developer to use that standard as a starting point. Then, all others conform to that standard. It has to be done that way when you think about it...

There is a vast difference in color perception depending on what monitor is being used. To get them in the same ballpark, you have to calibrate... laws of physics here can't be defeated any other way.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Caveman

If you want it as real as possible, then a user MUST tweak their monitor. This is because you have to have a baseline definition of what "real colors" are. It makes sense for the developer to use that standard as a starting point. Then, all others conform to that standard. It has to be done that way when you think about it...

There is a vast difference in color perception depending on what monitor is being used. To get them in the same ballpark, you have to calibrate... laws of physics here can't be defeated any other way.

Sure, with a new monitor. However, once a monitor is adjusted to suit one image, that should be right for all images, unless the first image was badly out of adjustment itself, in which case everything else will look odd and further adjustment may be necessary. If each game that came out required that every player's monitor was adjusted to it, and a player's monitor had to be adjusted every time they played a different game, that would be a nightmare, it would make playing games so difficult we might as well buy consoles.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

Sure, with a new monitor. However, once a monitor is adjusted to suit one image, that should be right for all images, unless the first image was badly out of adjustment itself, in which case everything else will look odd and further adjustment may be necessary. If each game that came out required that every player's monitor was adjusted to it, and a player's monitor had to be adjusted every time they played a different game, that would be a nightmare, it would make playing games so difficult we might as well buy consoles.

I completely agree with you Igo. I think you hit the nail on the head
I think we can only wait for release

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

Sure, with a new monitor. However, once a monitor is adjusted to suit one image, that should be right for all images, unless the first image was badly out of adjustment itself, in which case everything else will look odd and further adjustment may be necessary. If each game that came out required that every player's monitor was adjusted to it, and a player's monitor had to be adjusted every time they played a different game, that would be a nightmare, it would make playing games so difficult we might as well buy consoles.

I think you may not understand. When you calibrate something it'sa one time shot. If Maddox uses a calibrated monitor to balance colors and another developer of another game does not, you can't expect the other game to look right... You will not get all games to look good if they are not all calibrated during development.