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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-27-2011, 05:46 PM
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Wow huge dissapointment, they really dropped the ball. More people currently use DX11 than dx10 and DX9 than dx10. Big dissapointment
WHAT?

According to the steam hardware survey, which is about the most comprehensive, the most accurate survey of PC gamer hardware, only about 5% of PC gamers are on a DX11-capable system. About 21% are on DX9 systems, and the rest are DX10.

But apparently 21 + 73 > 5.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:52 PM
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WHAT?

According to the steam hardware survey, which is about the most comprehensive, the most accurate survey of PC gamer hardware, only about 5% of PC gamers are on a DX11-capable system. About 21% are on DX9 systems, and the rest are DX10.

But apparently 21 + 73 > 5.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Exactly. Btw DX10 still looks very very good and it will run faster than DX11 even with latest cards in the play.
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:59 PM
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Sorry! Anything newer or better than the cards listed will of course work!
I didn't see my 4890 listed in there after the 4850 and 4870, so i was momentarily confused.

What you say is probably obvious (anything better/newer than specified should work) but it's funny how excitement can cause us all to go in panic mode at the slightest drop of the hat


In any case these are VERY reasonable specs, congrats on the optimization process. Sure, i don't expect it to run at full with those settings, but a mid to high end PC purchased in the last two years will probably have no trouble running it at medium or medium-high settings on a reasonable resolution (single monitor). Heck, i don't expect most PCs to be able to max it out as it is, especially if we consider the disabled features. They're disabled for a reason after all...you know, the people who will crank everything up to max even if there's no hardware that can run it yet and then complain that it's a poor job because it stutters

I'm using an i7 920 (no overclocking) with Ati 4890 1GB and 3GB of RAM (i might get another 3 after i test run the sim a few times) and i'm very happy with the specs.



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Are you posting from the future? What does Duke Nukem Forever II look like?
i'm generally not one to make ironic remarks and whatnot, but this really made laugh out loud
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:00 PM
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WHAT?

According to the steam hardware survey, which is about the most comprehensive, the most accurate survey of PC gamer hardware, only about 5% of PC gamers are on a DX11-capable system. About 21% are on DX9 systems, and the rest are DX10.

But apparently 21 + 73 > 5.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
So what is the DX 11 support part in the announcments about?
Is it just blahblah?
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:01 PM
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WHAT?

According to the steam hardware survey, which is about the most comprehensive, the most accurate survey of PC gamer hardware, only about 5% of PC gamers are on a DX11-capable system. About 21% are on DX9 systems, and the rest are DX10.

But apparently 21 + 73 > 5.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
No I meant more people are running dx11 than dx10. This is because more people are on Win7 than vista and XP doesnt run dx10. Alot of games have no DX10 support at all, its dx9 or 11.
Win7 is currently the most used OS, second is XP. You dont think over the next year with the huge drop in dx11 cards that people wont go to dx11?

ANyway my point is that not many people use dx10 as vista is a minority os, and win7 users use dx9 if dx11 is not available in the game because DX10 was not widely adopted.
Also xp only uses 9 so...

Btw what you said is not what I said (or meant) DX9>DX10 DX11>DX10
DX9>DX11. This will shift decisivly to DX11 because nvidia and ati have discontinued there dx10 lines, nvidia is only makine gf110 chips now (500 series).

!!!Your graph is from may 2010, that 5% is 6 months out of date!!!

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Old 01-27-2011, 06:26 PM
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No I meant more people are running dx11 than dx10. This is because more people are on Win7 than vista and XP doesnt run dx10. Alot of games have no DX10 support at all, its dx9 or 11.
Win7 is currently the most used OS, second is XP. You dont think over the next year with the huge drop in dx11 cards that people wont go to dx11?

ANyway my point is that not many people use dx10 as vista is a minority os, and win7 users use dx9 if dx11 is not available in the game because DX10 was not widely adopted.
Also xp only uses 9 so...

Btw what you said is not what I said (or meant) DX9>DX10 DX11>DX10
DX9>DX11. This will shift decisivly to DX11 because nvidia and ati have discontinued there dx10 lines, nvidia is only makine gf110 chips now (500 series).

!!!Your graph is from may 2010, that 5% is 6 months out of date!!!
mate, DX10 will work fine on win7....I play ROF (DX9) on win7 64bit no probs....for smooth gameplay with all the eye candy from DX11 there would be a huge performance drop for most players....
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:33 PM
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mate, DX10 will work fine on win7....I play ROF (DX9) on win7 64bit no probs....for smooth gameplay with all the eye candy from DX11 there would be a huge performance drop for most players....
I never said dx10 doesnt work on win7. I said few games used dx10 because it was a performance hog, hard to program for and the only dif was in the lighting effects. DX11 performes better then dx10 for multi core pcs. If enable features like tesselation etc yes its slower, but a hell of alot faster then doing the equivalent on dx10 which would be unplayable.
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:35 PM
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I never said dx10 doesnt work on win7. I said few games used dx10 because it was a performance hog, hard to program for and the only dif was in the lighting effects. DX11 performes better then dx10 for multi core pcs. If enable features like tesselation etc yes its slower, but a hell of alot faster then doing the equivalent on dx10 which would be unplayable.
HOLY CRAP! I'm going to buy you a plane ticket to Moscow! Someone has to warn Oleg that his game is unplayable before it ships!
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:37 PM
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HOLY CRAP! I'm going to buy you a plane ticket to Moscow! Someone has to warn Oleg that his game is unplayable before it ships!
Zomg now you are making me panic again.
TO RUSSIA!!!
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:06 AM
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I never said dx10 doesnt work on win7. I said few games used dx10 because it was a performance hog, hard to program for and the only dif was in the lighting effects. DX11 performes better then dx10 for multi core pcs. If enable features like tesselation etc yes its slower, but a hell of alot faster then doing the equivalent on dx10 which would be unplayable.
What? Have you ever programmed in DX before? Because what you're saying makes no sense.
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