Friday 2011-01-21 Dev. update and Discussion

[Sasha]

There is Chinese saying... it is better to see once - than to hear 100 times.

I have no intention to discuss Oleg's personality, team structure, timing of features,...etc.

Just as a faithfull fan of Il-2 series, I pointed to reality fact:
So far there are no variety of clouds...

They could be added later on or not... but it is "a bit strange" that team has developed: hangar doors, flak guns, trains, armored vehicles,....and many, many "periferal features"... without key elements:

- later versins of Me-109E (even better 109F)
- Clouds environment (as visual priority in 2011 graphics)

Just my rational view of current situation... no hard feelings.

[robtek]

One thing OM said seems to be forgotten:
when we get to see the final product we will get many surprises!
As i don't think that the surprises will be of the negative kind, we cannot expect to see CoD in its final glory until it's installed on our rigs!

[kapteeni]

This whining is amazing. And the game isn't even out yet..
I love it. I can't wait to see "how porked the ME 109:s FM is compared to Hurricane"-Threats with wikipedia links.
I remember old days@UBIZOO.. It was pure fun to look that teh P-47 won teh war. It made my day several times after having a bad day at the werks.
It is pretty stupid to compare CoD with IL2. Since they are all different games. Even Oleg and the Team has made them both.
We all know that UBI haven't been the most customer friendly company, but the DRM thing is over according their announcement.
I ordered the Collectors Edition and i'm counting days....
kap

Originally Posted by robtek

One thing OM said seems to be forgotten:
when we get to see the final product we will get many surprises!
As i don't think that the surprises will be of the negative kind, we cannot expect to see CoD in its final glory until it's installed on our rigs!

Yes he did indeed say this Robtek, but since then he has said that a lot of new exciteng features originally announced to be in the game have now been taken out of the initial release purely because of performance issues. Ok we might see these added at a later date, but what we dont know is whether the features were dropped because the 2007 game engine simply out dated itsself, or whether todays technology is simply not powerful enough.

The surprise will most likely be what is missing rather than whats been added, but I hope im wrong.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

The surprise will most likely be what is missing rather than whats been added

I doubt it. Oleg said just a few months ago that there would be surprises, and he obviously meant good surprises, and by then he had a very good idea of how the game would run on our PCs.

but I hope im wrong.

You usually are so don't panic

I'm only kidding Tree, since I'm sure you're glad you were wrong about the release date.

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

I doubt it. Oleg said just a few months ago that there would be surprises, and he obviously meant good surprises, and by then he had a very good idea of how the game would run on our PCs.

You usually are so don't panic

I'm only kidding Tree, since I'm sure you're glad you were wrong about the release date.

Absoloutley. I should of stuck to my march 2011 release date that I predictated back in 2009, but i got carried away with all my success.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Absoloutley. I should of stuck to my march 2011 release date that I predictated back in 2009

Now that would've been cool. We'd then have to believe everything you said forever more.

[kapteeni]

Originally Posted by Sasha

There is Chinese saying... it is better to see once - than to hear 100 times.

I have no intention to discuss Oleg's personality, team structure, timing of features,...etc.

Just as a faithfull fan of Il-2 series, I pointed to reality fact:
So far there are no variety of clouds...

They could be added later on or not... but it is "a bit strange" that team has developed: hangar doors, flak guns, trains, armored vehicles,....and many, many "periferal features"... without key elements:

- later versins of Me-109E (even better 109F)
- Clouds environment (as visual priority in 2011 graphics)

Just my rational view of current situation... no hard feelings.

Where did you actually played the game? I'm jelous.
Is out in Russia?
And if is not out, how on earth you can tell what is missing?
By looking at few screenshots..... I don't think so.
My teenage friend, you need to have patience.
I want CoD to have mapmaking tools, but i can wait...2 weeks easily.
kap

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by kapteeni

Where did you actually played the game? I'm jelous.
Is out in Russia?
And if is not out, how on earth you can tell what is missing?
By looking at few screenshots..... I don't think so.
My teenage friend, you need to have patience.
I want CoD to have mapmaking tools, but i can wait...2 weeks easily.
kap

First of all, I am not teenage (unfortunately) but in my mid 40-es...

And I am not telling what is missing in the game (hope your English is that good) but what is missing in update presentations... not few screenshots - but few dozens of screenshots!

Talking about patience... be patient and read again my posts.

And... whenever something was missing from PC games presentation 1-2 months before release date - it was missing in release version.

Due to my age (maybe...) I am not lacking the patience... I am lacking presently - presentation of late Bf-109E models (for example)
If that is "not important" in CoD - than what is important ?

It is as simple as that... I am not a young Oleg's fanboy... but I am Oleg's flying veteran who is pointing to some important facts - within avelange of youngster's delight.

****
I have perfectly enough patience... even to wait for DRM version that Ubi is preparing.

I still hope that this is a FORUM (where people express and exchange opinions and impressions) not Ubi or Oleg religion church.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Sasha

First of all, I am not teenage (unfortunately) but in my mid 40-es...

And I am not telling what is missing in the game (hope your English is that good) but what is missing in update presentations... not few screenshots - but few dozens of screenshots!

Talking about patience... be patient and read again my posts.

And... whenever something was missing from PC games presentation 1-2 months before release date - it was missing in release version.

Due to my age (maybe...) I am not lacking the patience... I am lacking presently - presentation of late Bf-109E models (for example)
If that is "not important" in CoD - than what is important ?

It is as simple as that... I am not a young Oleg's fanboy... but I am Oleg's flying veteran who is pointing to some important facts - within avelange of youngster's delight.

****
I have perfectly enough patience... even to wait for DRM version that Ubi is preparing.

I still hope that this is a FORUM (where people express and exchange opinions and impressions) not Ubi or Oleg religion church.

+1 a Brilliant post ,unfortunately you are fighting some fanboys on here who will not question,or ask.
Why do we have to wait for the sim to be purchased and on our computers before we see these "hidden" goodies that are promised [not by Oleg but assumed by people on here ].
Has no one considered the facts that maybe ,just maybe what we have and see is it,there are no hidden jewels.
Yes it is a forum,a forum is that should be open enough to ask,discuss not get shouted down as a doubter.
I am worried that when the sim is released people will have built up too much hope on these issues and then feel deflated.
I wait with baited breath to be shot down for daring to ask.
Just out of interest ,how much can be added in 2 months before release without risking introducing problems and bugs?