the P47 "the Unbreakable"no more

[Richie]

Originally Posted by mazex

OK, but I guess they corrected that in the late D-models? And compared to the 109 at least I guess it was a lot better as the 109 was infamous for very stiff elevator controls at high speed? I once flew with an old 109 pilot (that was to old to keep his license) that spoke of very nasty behavior at deep dives with "locked" elevator. The worst thing was landing that beast of a crate with it's narrow gear and high wing loading though (he was flying late G and K models in 44-45). Which plane was better than the P-47 regarding these issues? I'm not that well read up on the P-47 so I'm not gonna keep on pressing my point much longer

From what I've read a late model G such as a G 10, G 14/AS, G6/AS could be a very capable fighter with a good pilot at the controls.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Richie

From what I've read a late model G such as a G 10, G 14/AS, G6/AS could be a very capable fighter with a good pilot at the controls.

They sure where capable fighters, but they where harder to get out of a fast dive than a P-47 which is what we are discusding here? The fact that they where nasty to land for an 18 year old pilot with 100 flight hours doesn't mean anything regarding their fighting capability either - it was just a boring anecdote

[Richie]

Originally Posted by mazex

They sure where capable fighters, but they where harder to get out of a fast dive than a P-47 which is what we are discusding here? The fact that they where nasty to land for an 18 year old pilot with 100 flight hours doesn't mean anything regarding their fighting capability either - it was just a boring anecdote

Agree 100% on the diving part but if I had the chance to talk to any WWII pilot nothing he says would bore me.

As a G-load related aside ...

... it should also make a difference where the extra weight (bombs) are carried. The airframe should be able to pull more Gs with a 500 pounder under each wing versus a single 1000 pounder on the centerline. Spreading the weight across the span reduces the peak load at the center.

This is assuming the shackles aren't themselves the G-load limiting factor.