If UBI's DRM scheme is unacceptable...

[Wolf_Rider]

so, what you seem to be saying is... you don't update your system and won't update your system/ game or sim in fear of that being too intrusive.
You also seem to be saying that while satellite connections exist all around you, you won't adopt the technology.
You haven't replied to your poor extrapolation of my post (ie where was automatic forced update mentioned?)and

and what has religion got to do with this?

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

so, what you seem to be saying is... you don't update your system and won't update your system/ game or sim in fear of that being too intrusive.

You also seem to be saying that while satellite connections exist all around you, you won't adopt the technology.

You haven't replied to your poor extrapolation of my post (ie where was automatic forced update mentioned?)and

and what has religion got to do with this?

Ah...

1) I don't like updating software if I can't look at the files being updated beforehand. The same goes for windows update (which can produce compatibility problems). I prefer manual installs. There is no reason why most updates to software would require you to download and run an executable (when a copy command or use of batch files would do). So, yes - depending on how the patching system works.

2) Adopting a satellite internet connection would cost thousands of dollars per year. The reason why Inuit communities get them has to do with resource extraction and the small number of communities in the Arctic (just over fifty settlements). I'm much further south.

3) Ah... I was just pointing out that I don't really like warranties and the automatic update and/or silently contacting servers that we see in Steam or some DRM schemes is much more like giving the support company permission to enter your house at any time, change things around (as well as look around) and possibly try to "fix" things which are already working and accidentally make them no longer work. Few people would accept this treatment in the non-digital world.

4) The document is actually the 1861 emancipation of the Serfs in Russia. The fact that it is couched in religious terms is a accident of history. The basic point is that we are accepting becoming tenants or even serfs in the digital world - while many of us seek to own our homes in the material world.

There is no reason why we should have to accept this double standard.

[proton45]

IDK why people are freaking out...I run a lot of different kinds of software and almost all of them required some kind of "online activation". Music programs, graphics and animation software all require some kind of internet connection to activate them...this is 2011 and pretty much all software is heading in this direction.

Its not really that big a deal...I dont really like the idea of "authentication/security programs" but, unless, they are a huge CPU hog that is running all the time, it doesn't bother me...

[The Kraken]

Do most of these installations also require a permanent internet connection to run and stop working when your connection or the company servers are down? As this is what Ubi has introduced last year as their superbly customer-friendly online service. And underlined more than once that they don't care if people complain about it; they'll keep using it for various titles as it provides so many superb advantages. Maybe over the years we'll learn to appreciate it - then we can say again, "everyone is doing this, so what's the big deal"

For CoD all indications are this will not be used, but until there's an official confirmation you shouldn't be surprised that people are cautious. And of course it's possible that a later mandatory update will insert this "service" into the game.

Hey it's all in the EULA and that must not be questioned!

[SEE]

At the end of the day enthusiasts are free to 'object' and not buy or 'accept' and install. I willl wait and see the 'devil in the detail' before I make a decision. SOW is a product that I can take or leave, I am more interested in TD's upgrades TBH.

[LoBiSoMeM]

I like Steam.

I buy games, install them in any computer I use, and play. With working auto-updates enable, save time.

It's a fully working sell platform. It's made by Valve, I like Valve. I will buy Cliffs Of Dover over Steam, will fly into the game untill my arms get sore and have a lot of fun without even think about corporative evil plans.

The life is short. IL-2 is about the fun part of it.

[brando]

Originally Posted by lobisomem

i like steam.

I buy games, install them in any computer i use, and play. With working auto-updates enable, save time.

It's a fully working sell platform. It's made by valve, i like valve. I will buy cliffs of dover over steam, will fly into the game untill my arms get sore and have a lot of fun without even think about corporative evil plans.

The life is short. Il-2 is about the fun part of it.

+1

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[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Ah...

1) I don't like updating software if I can't look at the files being updated beforehand. The same goes for windows update (which can produce compatibility problems). I prefer manual installs. There is no reason why most updates to software would require you to download and run an executable (when a copy command or use of batch files would do). So, yes - depending on how the patching system works.

2) Adopting a satellite internet connection would cost thousands of dollars per year. The reason why Inuit communities get them has to do with resource extraction and the small number of communities in the Arctic (just over fifty settlements). I'm much further south.

3) Ah... I was just pointing out that I don't really like warranties and the automatic update and/or silently contacting servers that we see in Steam or some DRM schemes is much more like giving the support company permission to enter your house at any time, change things around (as well as look around) and possibly try to "fix" things which are already working and accidentally make them no longer work. Few people would accept this treatment in the non-digital world.

4) The document is actually the 1861 emancipation of the Serfs in Russia. The fact that it is couched in religious terms is a accident of history. The basic point is that we are accepting becoming tenants or even serfs in the digital world - while many of us seek to own our homes in the material world.

There is no reason why we should have to accept this double standard.

you've got some problems then, son and you still haven't explained your extrapolation of my post

[WTE_Galway]

For every person that plays online games, buys goods online and lives in sex chat rooms 24/7 there must be several who have no internet just a PC.

For some odd reason those people without internet access don't post here. I wonder why

[BigC208]

If my aunt had bollocks she would be my uncle....
Lets just wait and see how it all works out before getting all worked up.