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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-04-2011, 04:27 AM
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From what I remember reading BoB allows the mission creator to type whatever serial numbers/apply whatever squadron codes they want...
Yes, I've heard that there will be great flexibility and options, and that is very commendable,but I would like to see that the default set of aircraft/campaigns are at least as completely historically correct as possible.

Surely BOB will include from the get-go a couple of Off-Line Campaigns which are very historically based and researched...including historically accurate skins, etc. Everything should not be left for 3rd party Mission/campaign creators to research and modify (sorry) to make accurate.

With IL-2, it took a 3rd party person to create "Mat Manager" which provided historically correct tactical markings, varied insignia and markings by nationality and timeframes, etc... I can't recall the creator's name, but his contribution was invaluable to those of us concerned with historical accuracy and detail. Will SOW:BOB include the variety of historically researched markings for selection by the user, as did Mat manager?

On another note, some of my comments/observations referred to placement/locations of certain markings/code letters...If the locations are wrong, then i assume the "skin Template' might be wrong and not allow the user to make an historically correct skin by himself.

Hope I am continuing to sound positive, and supportive of Oleg's Team.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:30 AM
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Yes, but there are development shots that are not necessarily from missions anywhere more detailed in scope than the QMB and therefore not necessarily with feverishly-researched markings. I agree it would be nice to see the sharkmouths/correctly sized Balkenkreuze, though.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:56 PM
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With IL-2, it took a 3rd party person to create "Mat Manager" which provided historically correct tactical markings, varied insignia and markings by nationality and timeframes, etc... I can't recall the creator's name, but his contribution was invaluable to those of us concerned with historical accuracy and detail. Will SOW:BOB include the variety of historically researched markings for selection by the user, as did Mat manager?

On another note, some of my comments/observations referred to placement/locations of certain markings/code letters...If the locations are wrong, then i assume the "skin Template' might be wrong and not allow the user to make an historically correct skin by himself.

Hope I am continuing to sound positive, and supportive of Oleg's Team.

Many people use MAT manager in IL2 just for the weathered markings. To put it quite bluntly the default markings in IL2 are ugly and look like model airplane decals. The IL2_MAT manager lets you replace them with something that looks more like what you see in actual photo's (the alternative of course is to use skins with markings provided bu the skinner).

So far the markings in SOW still have this stick on decal effect however I am pretty sure I read somewhere weathering effects are being implemented in the final game.

The other issue with default placements is that RAF markings seem to vary as to whether the right hand side placement reversed the order of Squadron ID and aircraft ID or just mirrored the left side.
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