Crazy Game

[atlatea]

I agree, saving initial save is good, even for blind game (no scanner used).

Yeah voice of dragon 3 is definately a must for dragons user.

I bet you have fun with those droids, 2 -ldrship arties for dwarft really turn those things to super powerhouse.

Whoa, 2 belt of victor? I never got one, let alone two

But wait, scrounger can give another artifact than that ring?

I though she can only give that ring, which happen to me several times already.

[onepiece]

Those dragons look Fuc**** ridiculous strong !! With 154 defense it will be necessary to cast Helplesness Lv 3 (now imagine BD with 2 belts and voice of the dragon lv3 plus another item that gives +1 moral to dragon (is there any?), that should give 'em 161 defense without taking into account the hero defense!!

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by onepiece

Those dragons look Fuc**** ridiculous strong !! With 154 defense it will be necessary to cast Helplesness Lv 3 (now imagine BD with 2 belts and voice of the dragon lv3 plus another item that gives +1 moral to dragon (is there any?), that should give 'em 161 defense without taking into account the hero defense!!

There is an item that does it! The Heart of the Dragon does +1 morale to dragons (and dragonflies)!

@Rudi, ah ha, I do remember getting the Gloves from Scrounger as well. I think you might be right. She gives a random composite item. Hmm... while the odds of procuring the Belt of the Victor, twice, naturally by components maybe like winning a lottery, with Scrounger the odds are back to the realms of mortals.

[atlatea]

Well, heart of dragon usually spawn as a reward for defeating champion or sometimes you can buy it from eventus.

It's very possible to have 2 heart of dragon. One of my warrior has 44 red dragons.

My Scrounger always gives that ring. Guess it's just a matter of luck.

From my experience, CW always generate many late game item, getting very good item is easy in CW, but getting composite item is another story.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by atlatea

Well, heart of dragon usually spawn as a reward for defeating champion or sometimes you can buy it from eventus.

It's very possible to have 2 heart of dragon. One of my warrior has 44 red dragons.

My Scrounger always gives that ring. Guess it's just a matter of luck.

From my experience, CW always generate many late game item, getting very good item is easy in CW, but getting composite item is another story.

I really think the Banners and little name tags we pick affect the random generator seed.

I don't usually see the Heart of the Dragon, yet, in my current game it is as you say. A reward for Arnold.

Maybe you keep naming your pet dragon the same thing? (haha I know I do)

I do like the better item distribution, which is what really got me excited to replay King's Bounty once they released Crossworlds.

The dichotomy of "wow, nothing changed" and "wow, this game is totally different" players is pretty amazing.

I'm really annoyed that the Belt is hard to spawn. It is a huge game changing item.

[atlatea]

Yeah, item distribution in CW is much more balanced.

Some very good items are non random too, i guess one of the is crown of chaos, i don't know why that item always in all my games.

Usually the non random one is in nameless island. Yeah i often get 2 crown of chaos, if i remembered right, by choosing rakush i can get 95% astral resistance

Yeah, most of the time, i named my pet dragon with the same name, however in some of my games i changed his name, but the heart of the dragon often spawn, sometimes the eye of the dragon that spawn in arnold.

Eventus often sell heart of dragon though. Warrior can have 44 red dragons with both of those + drakonix, and if i remembered right that is without +leadership item, though i use flaming eyes.

As for composite, i never complete them except dragon toys (once), and scrounger ring (twice). Some of the composite is indeed very powerful, like the belt, however that is still not my top item, i'd still prefer +resistances item than that or -leadership item.

As for the banner and name tag, probably yes or probably not, the only way to know is by looking at how the algorithm randomize them.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by atlatea

Yeah, item distribution in CW is much more balanced.

Some very good items are non random too, i guess one of the is crown of chaos, i don't know why that item always in all my games.

Usually the non random one is in nameless island. Yeah i often get 2 crown of chaos, if i remembered right, by choosing rakush i can get 95% astral resistance

Yeah, most of the time, i named my pet dragon with the same name, however in some of my games i changed his name, but the heart of the dragon often spawn, sometimes the eye of the dragon that spawn in arnold.

Eventus often sell heart of dragon though. Warrior can have 44 red dragons with both of those + drakonix, and if i remembered right that is without +leadership item, though i use flaming eyes.

As for composite, i never complete them except dragon toys (once), and scrounger ring (twice). Some of the composite is indeed very powerful, like the belt, however that is still not my top item, i'd still prefer +resistances item than that or -leadership item.

As for the banner and name tag, probably yes or probably not, the only way to know is by looking at how the algorithm randomize them.

It seems random enough not to matter though, just funny.

Wow, I never completed the dragon toy. Wait, what is the Scrounger Ring? Holy Ring?

Belt of the Victor really shines for units with high base defense, like level 5s. Not so great for lower level units.

So if you have a very well mixed army, not so great. If you have all level 5s, it's a godsend.

I was able to generate a godly game (took me maybe 6 tries?, then I tried to get more greedy, but I got 4 more crap games, so I stopped) for my Warrior.

I finally got the Scale Set, but I can't really use it since I need to use Moldok. But, I got Twink, Leather, Slippery, AND Belt of the Victor. The Ogre will live...

[Minecontrol]

Originally Posted by atlatea

I agree, saving initial save is good, even for blind game (no scanner used).

Yeah voice of dragon 3 is definately a must for dragons user.

I bet you have fun with those droids, 2 -ldrship arties for dwarft really turn those things to super powerhouse.

Whoa, 2 belt of victor? I never got one, let alone two

But wait, scrounger can give another artifact than that ring?

I though she can only give that ring, which happen to me several times already.

Perhaps someone else can confirm for me that it does sometimes give out a different reward to the ring? I was expecting the ring myself (got it in the last game) and the belt was a nice surprise.

Most of the best artifacts only came very late in the game, especially in Elon which i visited near the end - and the first island when i returned very late in the game having not visited in a very long time... Maybe staying away from Frederick until you are very powerful and have accomplished a great deal (including getting him his kingdom back) in the interum since you saw him last is a key to getting those shops on the first island restocked with the best gear?

I wish i had a savegame for ckdamascus but i always overwrite.

The battle with K'Tahu went trickier than i expected, i may have high defence but i do have low phys resistance, ah well... up to 28 Dragins now.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Minecontrol

Perhaps someone else can confirm for me that it does sometimes give out a different reward to the ring? I was expecting the ring myself (got it in the last game) and the belt was a nice surprise.

Most of the best artifacts only came very late in the game, especially in Elon which i visited near the end - and the first island when i returned very late in the game having not visited in a very long time... Maybe staying away from Frederick until you are very powerful and have accomplished a great deal (including getting him his kingdom back) in the interum since you saw him last is a key to getting those shops on the first island restocked with the best gear?

I wish i had a savegame for ckdamascus but i always overwrite.

The battle with K'Tahu went trickier than i expected, i may have high defence but i do have low phys resistance, ah well... up to 28 Dragins now.

I can't hard confirm, but I say with some certainty, Scounger can probably spawn different items as a reward. I think one of my games, the item she gave me was ... get this... Crown of Chaos.

What is her ring anyway? If you mean the Holy Ring, pretty sure she can spawn different items.

If you really want, I can pull up my old saved game and beat her to find out what item she gave me.

Unfortunately, this is NOT the case. The items are 100% pre-generated by the time you press "Start New Game". That is why some players use a saved game scanner to detect the item distribution before they start, to ensure the times match their planned strategy.

Yeah, in one of my saved games I needed to basically beat Demenion to get the Dagger of Judgement. I thought... at that point, I can't even really USE the dagger for much longer.

Incidentally, in this very saved game, I have tons of great intellect items too, so I recycled the game (since I saved the initial game) and replayed using a different strategy.

Yeah, I just realized Ktahu's minions have ZERO "heroic" buffs to their stats, so high defense helps a lot. High defense and high physical resist is really handy against Ktahu. There was a huge difference in survivability for me once I equipped the Slippery Cuirass. (I was trying to be macho and not use it )

Darn. Double Belt of the Victor is sooo rare. <sniffles> Although, it is VERY possible it has slipped past me becase you got it as a special reward. The scanner does not pick up all special rewards.

Ironic, eh? Because you didn't use the scanner and rely on it, that is why you ended up with it (eventually). Because if I was really gunning for it, I probably would have discarded that saved game.

[Rudi]

i got the Glove of Destroyer item from Scrounger
so it seems that the game generates a random combined artifact there