4.10 Support & Bug Reporting

[Ian Boys]

anyway, back to MDS and recon planes please ....

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by Ian Boys

anyway, back to MDS and recon planes please ....

Ian, I tried to get the MDS Recon Planes feature to work but I couldn't. I tried every possible setting. The recon plane flew over enemy units but never displayed them on the in-game map.

**EDIT: I finally got it to work! The recon planes only 'see' moving vehicles/armor. They can't spot things like artillery, stationary aircraft, etc. Also, they can't spot ships, even if they pass right over them.

Aviar

[elkaskone]

He111H2 breaks into pieces if i pull more than ~3G!

[IvanK]

Its bomber !

[Letum]

Originally Posted by elkaskone

He111H2 breaks into pieces if i pull more than ~3G!

How is that a bug?

[elkaskone]

@Letum

2,8-3G means nothing in the Game,
if this will be not fixed you are unable to make good defensive figures at medium speeds!
Other flyable Bombers can all pull more G than the 111H2 and it looks uneven in my eyes!
If 2,8-3G for he111h2 is realistic number, than i think many other planes need a negative fix!

[robtek]

I have found some data for the He111 here :
http://www.bredow-web.de/Sinsheim-Sp..._111_h-16.html
there one can read :

Safe load factor in recovering in relation to the aircraft center of gravity:

2,9 g at 11,6 tons
3,1 g at 11,0 tons
3,4 g at 10,0 tons
3,6 g at 9,5 tons

If thats the safe figures the damage should occur at much higher g-loads.

[Ian Boys]

Av, can you get AI planes to despawn in MDS? I can't.

[JtD]

Empty TO weight H-2 in game: ~12 tons.
TO weight H-2 with 8x250kg bombs: ~14 tons
Safe g-limit when applying RL data: ~2.8g / 2.4g against structural damage
Safety factor in Germany at that time: 1.5 to complete failure.
Instant failure for in game weights: 4.2 g / 3.6 g

Summary: He 111H-2 failing at about 3 g -> ok.

[Ian Boys]

Originally Posted by Aviar

**EDIT: I finally got it to work! The recon planes only 'see' moving vehicles/armor. They can't spot things like artillery, stationary aircraft, etc. Also, they can't spot ships, even if they pass right over them.

Aviar

I've tried this too without luck so far. A few questions please:

1) Was the recon plane AI or player?

2) Did you have a radar somewhere on the map?

3) Was FoW in Advanced mode?


I've flown both AI and human right over moving tanks with no result. Plus, I'm confused - why are only flyable planes suitable as recon planes, esp. as they have an S-328 in their diagram but we can't select it? Nor the Po-2 or R-5.