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Old 12-19-2010, 12:22 PM
II/JG54_Emil II/JG54_Emil is offline
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Just a little update on the bombs:

I found some historical data concerning the destruction radius for German SC bombs and FAB 5000.

Since some of TD said the shrapnel-radius needs to be taken into account for FABs blast-radius in game, I want to post a table for the shrapnel radius that I found in Wolfgang Thamms book Fliegerbomben:
  • Bomb__Shrapnel-Radius
  • SC50_______32,5m_______25m in game
  • SC250______65m_________77m in game
  • SC500______95m_________82m in game
  • SC1000____180m________168m in game
  • SC2000____350m________275,8m in game


Here is why the FABs destruction radius in game is very dubious:

The most common explosive in FAB bombs used was Amatol(exception FAB50 using pure TNT).
SC bombs contained a mix of 40% Amatol and 60% TNT.
The TNT equivalent for Amatol is given with 0,85. That means it´s less powerful.
Accordingly the TNT equivalent of SCs is 0,94 where the FABs TNT equivalent is 0,85, which results in 9% more explosive power for the SC bombs in comparison to FAB bombs.

Historically the SC bombs had a heavier filling than the FAB bombs.

I found a source in the internet giving away the blast radius of a FAB 5000 with 428m!!! in game we have 2500m!!!
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one must think with horrific effect, as well-- the calculated zone of lethality for a non-armoured target in proximity to a 'normally fused' FAB 5000 blast was given as 428 meters!!

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/Research/O...5000/index.php
Another source states the radii to destroy concrete/wood in FAB bombs are:
FAB-50____12m/25m(stone/wood)____25m in game
FAB-100___18m/35m(stone/wood)____50m in game
FAB-250___28m/56m(stone/wood)____50m in game
FAB-500___40m/80m(stone/wood)___250m in game
FAB-1000_55m/112m(stone/wood)___500m in game

FAB-5000_____428m(_____/wood)__2500m in game


With this historical data in the background, I kindly ask TD to change the blast radius of FAB and SC bombs.

Another concern was that some of the German cockpits are historical incorrect, along with temperature problems of Bf-110, underheat in I-185.
Is TD interested in data on that to be able to do a change?
Since I was asked not to post any such info as above here, but send them via email to TD, I did so three days ago, asking if they are interested in detailed info about several bugs and historical data on blast radii of bombs.

But since I don´t get any answer from TD, I begin to wonder if there is any serious interest in changing errors within the game.

I hope there is.

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Old 12-19-2010, 01:34 PM
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Ever considered that we have real lives, too? Ever considered that any investigation into that matter would take place only after the release of 4.10?

Jeez, Emil, don't you have any patience?
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:07 PM
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Since I was asked not to post any such info as above here, but send them via email to TD, I did so three days ago, asking if they are interested in detailed info about several bugs and historical data on blast radii of bombs.

But since I don´t get any answer from TD, I begin to wonder if there is any serious interest in changing errors within the game.

I hope there is.
Three days? Heck where I used to work it'd be great if my boss got back to me on critical items in under 2 weeks! That person gets a pay cheque... TD is volunteer based.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:49 PM
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Enough time to post here on the the forum that there is real life out there.

A simple "yes, we are interested" as an answer would have been enough.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:40 PM
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Come on, don't be so mean. I guess TD has to read all the documents you sent them, try to find out who are the authors and if they can be trusted And if your documents are good (I'm sure they are), surely you'll get a big thank from TD. But now, as they have no time to read all of your stuffs, they can't be sure if what you sent them are good or bad. A short answer: yes, we are interested, for a fake document is quite silly, don't you think. And furthermore, as TD receive many documents from IL-2 fans everyday, they can't answer all of them. Most people are only interested in real answer, and such short answers as you suggest are normally considered just "superficial".
No offense or any intention to imply anything. I've just tried to think objectively.
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:11 PM
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I didn´t send any document, just asked if they were intersted in such info.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:37 PM
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you might send the documents per Email to them to find out how interesed they are ...
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:57 PM
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you might send the documents per Email to them to find out how interesed they are ...
I´m not going to make a huge workload to scan documents, get them organized to just find out that there is no true interest.

A true interest can be indicated by simply answering my mail.


But as you read above it´s not going to be implemented in 4.10m.
And I doubt that we ever may see a 4.11m judging the delay we had this year.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:43 PM
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I didn´t send any document, just asked if they were intersted in such info.
It appears that Thor just posted his answer. When a gift is being offered the likes of which TD is giving it doesn't seem right to suggest how the gift can be improved unless the giver has specifically asked how it can be improved.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:51 PM
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It appears that Thor just posted his answer. When a gift is being offered the likes of which TD is giving it doesn't seem right to suggest how the gift can be improved unless the giver has specifically asked how it can be improved.
Maybe you can open a TD-church.

Or maybe I have I not realized that I am in a church already.
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