Friday 2010-12-10 Dev. video update and Discussion

[Richie]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

To be devil's advocate, do they use exactly the same fuel, etc? I can see what you're saying, a mark 1 spit from today is better to compare to than a seafire, but it's hard to find suitable videos.
Just my thought. Personally I think it's best to average out the effects seen in some videos, and then base this strongly around historical references. The pilots from the time would have had a pretty good idea themselves, and many have documented the effect

I think all of you are taking this way too far. Blue flames instead of red or yellow and that's about it...Blue. Even the Daimler Benz flames are about the same blue and I don't think Maddox is going to fart around for the next six months getting his flames just so. Going back to 1940 to compare high leded fuels and their flames with today's low led fuels and their flames..Hilarious! Is it a flight sim or a flame sim?

[EinsteinEP]

Well done, Oleg et al! Storm of War is looking very nice indeed! I'm sure the community in large will really be thrilled with the attention to details. I know I can't wait!

I have a couple of DeviceLink questions (apologies if I've missed a relevant thread on this topic):

1) Will Storm of War support DeviceLink or some similar interface for data logging and sim-pits?

2) If so, could it I be so bold to make a humble request for a few parameters in addition to those currently available in DeviceLink 1.00?
- True Airspeed
- True Altitude
- Outside air temperature
- Static air pressure
- Angle of attack
- Total thrust force
- Total drag force

These parameters would be very useful in evaluating aircraft performance (specific energy, lift curves, etc.) and are similar to those parameters taken (or derived) on test flights of real aircraft.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Richie

I think all of you are taking this way too far. Blue flames instead of red or yellow and that's about it...Blue. Even the Daimler Benz flames are about the same blue and I don't think Maddox is going to fart around for the next six months getting his flames just so. Going back to 1940 to compare high leded fuels and their flames with today's low led fuels and their flames..Hilarious! Is it a flight sim or a flame sim?

I know what you mean.
I have always viewed it like this: there will always be forum members with specific knowledge in certain subject areas (like me with my RAF flight-gear collection) and when the teams asks for help in that area, there will usually be a lot of info, but not all of it is necessarily needed.
However, IMHO, more is better than less
But I agree, it's just an effect and one won't notice if there is just a tiny bit too much blue...

[BigC208]

Nice flamebait Oleg, it worked.

[AdMan]

yellow/orange/red at startup or when damaged

blue/white during normal operation

/thread

Originally Posted by BigC208

Nice flamebait Oleg, it worked.

!!!!

Oleg must be laughing outloud at home tonight: Look at this , honey, ! I told you it would take less that 2 days before they get at each others throat arguing about..guess what this time ? exhaust flame color at night!!!...hahahaha!
Next week, I will ask them about tire pressure....It will be a carnage !!! Can't wait till next update !

[proton45]

If I was Oleg I would post up-dates that, I knew, where flawed...that way the nitpickers are too busy squabbling over "red or blue flames" (example), as opposed to moaning over release dates, computer spec's or whatever subject they think will get the forum community in a "tizzy"... lol


Its time to keep the "kiddies" busy...the adults are working.

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by proton45

If I was Oleg I would post up-dates that, I knew, where flawed...that way the nitpickers are too busy squabbling over "red or blue flames" (example), as opposed to moaning over release dates, computer spec's or whatever subject they think will get the forum community in a "tizzy"... lol


Its time to keep the "kiddies" busy...the adults are working.

Ha ha well even with mid forties I then hope I will never become an "adult" as you put it.
Going by some posts one could drop all input, at the most only writen signs of awe are acceptable......Thank god your type is not an admin, or forums would be a dead place.

[Sutts]

I don't see this as a squabble at all. It's been a useful and interesting discussion with opportunities to learn new things. Oleg asked whether the flames were too yellow on the running engine. From all the evidence and experience posted here it is clear that yellow flames are generally only expelled on initial start up or when the engine is damaged in some way.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen one video here showing regular yellow flames coming from a running engine. All are either blue or red once the initial startup is complete. Also no night shots show the side panels being lit up by the exhaust flames. That backs up my personal experience from 2 night runs on a Lanc and a Merlin Spitfire.

I think the thread has done its job well.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Wutz

Ha ha well even with mid forties I then hope I will never become an "adult" as you put it.
Going by some posts one could drop all input, at the most only writen signs of awe are acceptable......Thank god your type is not an admin, or forums would be a dead place.

I dont think your really getting my point...lol