Surprising quality gun camera footage from japanese theatre.

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does anyone still have the link in the first post? send by PM, cheers.

[Splitter]

Viking...weren't you the one who made the post hoping that the Blue Angels aerobatic team bumped into one another and crashed?

I like you, Blackdog, you know that. You are one of the more intelligent people I have run across. You can even make a good argument for wrong positions . Now take a look at the person who said "Amen!" to your post. Same guy that wanted the American exhibition pilots to crash and die. What does that tell you about the hatred out there?

With friends like that, who needs enemies. Right? lol

Old arguments. I'll say that WMD's were never the sole reason for taking out Saddam. I'll say we are not at war with Islam, but are at war with Radical Islam. I'll say that the US has not suffered another 9/11 and that we are fighting them "over there" instead of over here. I'll say that Iraq was never about imperialism and point out that it is a money pit. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

But it comes down to this: American troops are not terrorists. They are not targeting civilians. They go out of their way to limit civilian casualties, often putting US troops in harm's way to do so. Believe me, were it otherwise, we would all know.

You can be against the war. You can think it is not fair that the US is so powerful. You can think that radical elements aren't all that dangerous. Just stop the name calling, direct or indirect.

Blackdog, your country is broke. Your country spent itself into overwhelming debt. Well, mine is broke too and has followed the same spending path. Just understand that your country would be in chaos right now if not for the bailout. Now which nation gave the most for the bailout? That's right, your friends. Friends with whom you need not agree on every issue. Friends whom some call terrorists themselves.

People keep cherry picking Wikileaks. Read about the other stuff, see the bigger picture. You know what Wikileaks actually says? It says that nations around the globe are terrified of the terrorists, Iran included. It says they all hope "someone" will do something about their nuclear threat. Wikileaks shows a lot more "unity" on these issues than public facades would seem to indicate.

Interesting, huh?

I don't care to debate the war, we've done that before. All I care about is the name calling. So, sorry, I won't be a good little American and let our servicemen be called terrorists (not saying you were, btw, Blackdog). People can say, "Hey, wrong forum for politics!"....ok, then slap down the haters when they post. As I said, the silence is often deafening.

Splitter

[Necrobaron]

Originally Posted by Splitter

Viking...weren't you the one who made the post hoping that the Blue Angels aerobatic team bumped into one another and crashed?

Yes he was, as I recall, and then that thread went off on some ridiculous tangent about how bad airshows were for the environment or somesuch.

Anyway...

War is war, plain and simple. I've always thought it was silly to try and sanitize war to make it more "humane". War in itself is a tragedy and there is no changing that. Whatever it takes to win and end it should be the next objective. I don't think I could ever kill a helpless combatant but I have a hard time condemning those who do without having been in their boots. It's easy to sit back in our comfy chairs from the safety of our homes and make judgment calls but I think that is oversimplifying things.
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[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Necrobaron

Yes he was, as I recall, and then that thread went off on some ridiculous tangent about how bad airshows were for the environment or somesuch.

Well you cannot really say this is environmentally sound ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5huN-GQnm8

As they say in the Bible Belt if God had meant man to fly he would have been born with a tail rotor !!


... oh we are getting off topic again aren't we.



oh well

[BK_JG27_Treiber]

Galway's right, this is well off topic.

[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Well you cannot really say this is environmentally sound ...

Pilots must have had baked beans for breakfast.. just as well they were going fast, or they might have exploded.

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

i looked on youtube & i couldn't find any IJN or IJA gun camera ..

they didn't have any... did they?

[Tacoma74]

Originally Posted by I/ZG52_Gaga

i looked on youtube & i couldn't find any IJN or IJA gun camera ..

they didn't have any... did they?

The link that was originally posted was of U.S. gun cameras over Japan. The title is a little misleading.. i thought the same thing as you did. As for Japan having gun cameras on their planes check out this link:

http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aerial_cameras

[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by Splitter

.. As I said, the silence is often deafening.

Why bother to make any noise.. when you can just go over there and get yourself (and your sons/daughters) killed, again... for 'nothing'. It won't change anything.....just like last time, and the many times before that.
Off you go now...