Surprising quality gun camera footage from japanese theatre.

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by Bowtome

It is always hard to think what should you do in war.

I hope that in the situation, if it was me, I would not have shot down any pilot parachuting out.

But, by not shooting him, which is pretty much what you are doing when he is in a plane, you are allowing him to get back into a plane and kill 1 or hundreds in the future. What about bombing runways and destroying planes and killing pilots and ground staff, is that okay? So why not just shoot the parachuting pilots?

What about a sniper, his prey have no chance to defend themselves.

What about banning bio weapons, that when a drop of the liquid touches you, you feel no pain but die in seconds.

But, you allow Napalm that sticks to you and burns you alive in pain.

War is Mad, the rules are madder.

Good on that line of thought why not shoot at life boats, sink hospital ships, and aim especially at medics, or even better go especially after civilians as that is where you next soldiers are coming from, shall I continue?

[Bowtome]

You may continue if you wish, it is a free world.

I do not have the answers, I was just making some points. I said I would not have shot the parachutist.

[W32Blaster]

Originally Posted by Wutz

Good on that line of thought why not shoot at life boats, sink hospital ships, and aim especially at medics, or even better go especially after civilians as that is where you next soldiers are coming from, shall I continue?

like it or not, all of these things were acitvely done on purpose by both sides during WWII.

There is no such thing like humantity looking at War. War is most likely a festival of pure violence, a situation where moral measures do count NULL.
All efforts made to set up rules are mostly trampeled under foot when the conflict escalates.

No sense in stating examples since that discussion will never end.

[Trumper]

I do wonder whether war now is actually more humane than it was in days of old.
In olden days towns and cities were attacked by the invading hoards and all and sundry massacred,regardless.
As weapons became more and more accurate,sophisticated the options of whether to kill or not open up,it is then up to the weapons operator to make that final decision.
Media and instant reporting now mean people can get away with less ,especially in the name of war.
Not nice and hopefully i won't happen anymore but thats a false hope,humans have a tendency to destroy.

[Bowtome]

Ghengis Khan always killed all of his enemy in battle to make sure they couldn't raise an army to kill his army.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Bowtome

Ghengis Khan always killed all of his enemy in battle to make sure they couldn't raise an army to kill his army.

Stalin had 22.000 Polish officers murdered one night in a forest - that would make a great commander too I guess?
Both were f'ing bastards, and the move itself is actually incredible stupid.

[Zorin]

Read this and the case it settled. Humanity may have come a long way, but self-preservation of body and conscience is still our prime motive in life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

[swiss]

I wasn't talking about humanity.


If you conquer land you probably intend to keep and exploit it.
Manpower helps a lot, I guess...
BTW: Most of the armies that time weren't exactly freedom fighters, you should fear your personal slave way more than a defeated army composed of mercenaries.

[WTE_Galway]

This thread has gone offtopic yet gain


Some more PTO footage ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUpCsO3pI08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Kia79GyWU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBTxtt1VgDQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEDDRLeSKF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7u7zdR8Sbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Mvy7uNHxY

[Splitter]

And that's why the Germans called the Shermans "Tommy Cookers" and the Allies referred to them as "Ronsons" because they lit the first time, every time. Scary.

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