Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro

Exactly what? What Vladimir said about "rubber" planes? Please tell us where you see rubber planes here or "realisitc DM not calculated":

If you think, this is realistic, you, probably, haven't seen even a model plane crashes, leave along real wood+fabric planes.

It really makes me laugh, seeing a 500-600 kg plane hit ground almost vertically with at least 80 km/h speed and stops immediately, just some wings and tail bend a little.

IRL, in the same situation, you'd find a piece of tail, may be some outer wing pieces and a lot of very small debris, which were fuselage and centerwings, in a crater, made by the engine, while the engine itself will be somewhere 1-2 m under the ground. And this is in the case, the fuel wouldn't ignite by impact (possible). Otherwise all the above would form a nice smoky bonfire.

Verdict: rubber planes

[undercut]

I think these physics in RoF look great...If you want to experience true to life plane crashes go to your local flying club, take an introductory flight.. and crash the plane into the ground.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by undercut

If you want to experience true to life plane crashes go to your local flying club, take an introductory flight.. and crash the plane into the ground.

Well, this is a really good advise for anyone, who thinks, the crash physics is realistic in RoF...

Not me, apparently...

[150GCT_Veltro]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

If you think, this is realistic, you, probably, haven't seen even a model plane crashes, leave along real wood+fabric planes.

First of all is better is we say this to ourself: probably we are asking to much from a simulation.

However about your quote, i can answer this to you: i've seen (thank to an italian "KIA body pilots recovery association") what did happen when a fighter crashed in my area (around Bologna where we did have a lot of dogfights in WW2). There was a sort of "drill engine effect" when an aicraft crashed from high altitude. Wings were cut off but engine, pilot, and fuselage did penetrate terrain for some meters (this was due probably also to the farmland terrain). We'll see it in SoW? I doubt it....it would be really too much. Realistic in a flight sim, is always an hard and questionable statement to say.

Considering some shoots (terrific) of WW1 crashed scouts, we can see aircrafts like collapsed and somentimes the pilot killed still inside, so not too much different from what we have seen in RoF. Some more piece of fuselage would be better during the crash, but i think we could say that realistic or not, RoF DM is good enough for our PC, at least for now.

This video is very sad, please look at it with respect, but it's also a document about crashed WW1 aircrafts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63-Jg...embedded#at=44

[JG52Uther]

Title of thread:
Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

RoF forum is somewhere else,and if people want to argue with each other,thats what PM's are for.

[klem]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Title of thread:
Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

RoF forum is somewhere else,and if people want to argue with each other,thats what PM's are for.

+100

Is there a moderator here that could cut this thread down to a manageable 20 relevant pages?

And a serious question (if anyone can find it) Can someone tell me if Oleg has a 'cutoff point' of say 2 days or 10 pages which he just doesn't go beyond, trawling through all the irelevant stuff looking for our questions? We could hardly blame him. If so I won't have to waste my time reading through them either.

<bookmarks page 89 for tracking purposes>

[ElAurens]

Sir,

If you wish me to delete my posts kindly say so, and it will be done.

[klem]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Sir,

If you wish me to delete my posts kindly say so, and it will be done.

ElAurens, at the risk of padding this thread even more, I just got fed up with trying to find a needle in this haystack. It's a discussion about the 'Dev update' and I reckon more than half of it has become about other issues. Please forgive me if I don't trawl through it again to see if your posts are on-topic.

I suppose I'm expecting too much on an open forum where some people can't resist the temptation to repeatedly argue that they are right on every point (like we didn't understand them the first time) and then throw in their off-topic garbage of choice. I've chaired enough meetings where they would simply have been censured or kicked out, but forums don't have chairmen.

<sigh> Maybe I'm just getting too old.

[arjisme]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Title of thread:
Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

RoF forum is somewhere else,and if people want to argue with each other,thats what PM's are for.

RoF was initially brought up in order to compare what that flight sim does with grass rendering vs. what we are seeing in SoW. The idea was to encourage Oleg to do something similar. It was a valid point in that context. There was no intent to start a general discussion about that sim here.

Unfortunately, it then veered off topic when one member started making inaccurate statements about RoF. Normally, that could be ignored, but as this is a flight sim forum and there is always some cross-interest in other sims, it needed to be addressed. His overall condescending and insulting attitude only fed the discussion.

But I agree, one's personal feelings about sims other than SoW have no place here. And, unless we are comparing what another sim does to what is done in SoW, they have no place here either.

[robtek]

Sorrily i cant watch the movie because of the censorship of the DRM-mafia