SoW: Battle for Moscow and other Igromir news

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by =69.GIAP=TOOZ

Well, honestly, I had noticed the seemingly excessive gunsmoke as well, and it does look somewhat overdone. However, something I noticed right off the bat is how the gunsmoke actually responds to the wind or airflow during flight. When in the air the guns fire and the gunsmoke billows out and then flows behind over the wings, but on the ground, when the stationary Hurricane fires its guns the smoke is propelled forward! I thought that was a neat detail!

Plt Off Colin Gray had this to say about his first shots in anger.

"Suddenly, we found ourselves in amongst a gaggle of 109s. I opened fire at one of them, but stopped when I noticed smoke coming back over my wings. That smoke shook me - I thought somebody was firing at me. I pulled round hard but there was nobody there - what I had seen was cordite smoke billowing back from my own guns."

I dont know if the effect shown in the sim is accurate or not but quotes like that suggests that the smoke was plainly visible from the cockpit, (and how little experience some of these pilots had. You would thought they'd fired their guns in training????) .

I wonder what the effect would look like from the cockpit?

Cheers!

[major_setback]

Online map?

[Luffe]

Originally Posted by major_setback

Online map?

I hope so.

Anyway, that map reminded me that we haven't seen any forrested areas 'up close' in SOW.
I hope they are not managed the same way as Il2s 'pancake' forrests.

Have anyone spotted anything about this in the vids from Igromir?

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Luffe

I hope so.

Anyway, that map reminded me that we haven't seen any forrested areas 'up close' in SOW.
I hope they are not managed the same way as Il2s 'pancake' forrests.

Have anyone spotted anything about this in the vids from Igromir?

I think these are the closest:

[Luffe]

Thanks. I had not seen those.

Looks great from that altitude.

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by Luffe

I hope so.

Anyway, that map reminded me that we haven't seen any forrested areas 'up close' in SOW.
I hope they are not managed the same way as Il2s 'pancake' forrests.

Have anyone spotted anything about this in the vids from Igromir?

Luffe, the "pancake" forests you disparage were an absolutely brilliant programming solution to a problem that, up till Il-2, hadn't been solved by any flight sim: how to show a forest cover of large extension. Oleg solved this with four layers of semi-transparent textures that gave an exceptionally good illusion of a forest of 3D trees from just a few hundred meters up.

I think you probably weren't around playing flight sims in 2001 when Il-2 came out, but the graphics blew everything else out of the water back then. And the particular solution for forests is still a very clever one.

You have to know something about programming and system resources to understand why flight sims look the way they do. A handful of teenage kids in this forum haven't got a clue, but most have an idea...

[Luffe]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

Luffe, the "pancake" forests you disparage were an absolutely brilliant programming solution to a problem that, up till Il-2, hadn't been solved by any flight sim: how to show a forest cover of large extension. Oleg solved this with four layers of semi-transparent textures that gave an exceptionally good illusion of a forest of 3D trees from just a few hundred meters up.

I think you probably weren't around playing flight sims in 2001 when Il-2 came out, but the graphics blew everything else out of the water back then. And the particular solution for forests is still a very clever one.

You have to know something about programming and system resources to understand why flight sims look the way they do. A handful of teenage kids in this forum haven't got a clue, but most have an idea...

Whoa, lighten up. I realize they were made that way to save resources, and they look great from altitude. At ground level they are nearly invisible though, as I'm sure many mudmovers can tell you.
I just hope that a different solution has been found for SOW.

I really don't understand your attitude.
It must really be torture for you to read through the posts on this forum.

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

Luffe, the "pancake" forests you disparage were an absolutely brilliant programming solution to a problem that, up till Il-2, hadn't been solved by any flight sim: how to show a forest cover of large extension. Oleg solved this with four layers of semi-transparent textures that gave an exceptionally good illusion of a forest of 3D trees from just a few hundred meters up.

Correct that - "are an absolutely brilliant"

On my older PCs you can still feel the sparkly. I think they're wonderful. The only issue I have is running into them from the sides (naturally).

[BadAim]

Those screenies sure bring back memories. I remember how bloody hard it was to bring down am IL2 with that 109F-2, but how rewarding in the end. I'm just as stoked to try SOW for the first time as I was IL2, and I still remember that far from being disappointed, it was actually better than I thought it would be (and my expectations were high!)

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

Luffe, the "pancake" forests you disparage were an absolutely brilliant programming solution to a problem that, up till Il-2, hadn't been solved by any flight sim: how to show a forest cover of large extension. Oleg solved this with four layers of semi-transparent textures that gave an exceptionally good illusion of a forest of 3D trees from just a few hundred meters up.

I think you probably weren't around playing flight sims in 2001 when Il-2 came out, but the graphics blew everything else out of the water back then. And the particular solution for forests is still a very clever one.

You have to know something about programming and system resources to understand why flight sims look the way they do. A handful of teenage kids in this forum haven't got a clue, but most have an idea...

Correct.
And many copied this technology. Some even for clouds .