Friday 2010-10-29 Dev. update and Discussion

[philip.ed]

Very nice video Oleg!

But with the RAF tracer, in gun-cam films I've seen, the tracer has had smoke-trails which are missing from SoW. Will these be added? I think it really adds to the immersion.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Very nice video Oleg!

But with the RAF tracer, in gun-cam films I've seen, the tracer has had smoke-trails which are missing from SoW. Will these be added? I think it really adds to the immersion.

I'm missing them, too.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Very nice video Oleg!

But with the RAF tracer, in gun-cam films I've seen, the tracer has had smoke-trails which are missing from SoW. Will these be added? I think it really adds to the immersion.

We have many different various... Just to be sure the traces modeling is according war time document's descrition of the bullets(with its construction, type of traces, color lighting etc). Orignal UK doc. Same for Germans

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

We have many different various... Just to be sure the traces modeling is according war time document's descrition of the bullets(with its construction, type of traces, color lighting etc). Orignal UK doc. Same for Germans

That sounds excellent, Oleg.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Very nice video Oleg!

But with the RAF tracer, in gun-cam films I've seen, the tracer has had smoke-trails which are missing from SoW. Will these be added? I think it really adds to the immersion.

small caliber bullets with a smoke trail?

The Mg51 on my Tank sure never left a smoke trail.

Could be due to to modern powder?

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by swiss

small caliber bullets with a smoke trail?

The Mg51 on my Tank sure never left a smoke trail.

Could be due to to modern powder?

The smoke is part of the tracer, not the bullet.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

The smoke is part of the tracer, not the bullet.

and the tracer is? Inside the (back of the)bullet, so it is the bullet which drags the smoke behind.

[C_G]

Can't see the vids here at work but the screenshots hold a lot of promise!!
And thanks for responding to the community's request for vid and sound. Much appreciated.

Good luck on the presentation, Oleg!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by swiss

and the tracer is? Inside the (back of the)bullet, so it is the bullet which drags the smoke behind.

Not sure on the Luftwaffe, but the RAF used tracer rounds; not tracers inside bullets. These were not bullets, and they could not inflict any realy damage. The tracers themselves only gave a rough idea of where the bullets fell.
Sorry if I'm not making myself clear...


For example:

Bomber Command Ammuition 0.303-in.
Between January 1942 and May 1944 the operational sequence for belting
0.303-in. ammunition was as follows:

7 A.P., 2 incend., 1 tracer (day or night)

On the 26th May 1944, provision was made to alter the current sequence, should the necessity arise, to enable a quick turn-round of aircraft for day/night operations, to be effectec:

Rear Top left: all 70% A.P., 30% Incend., no Tracer
Top right: 1st 500 rounds like above
Reminder 50% A.P., 20% Incend., 30% Tracer (Night)

Bottom left: All 60% A.P., 20% Incend., 20% Tracer (Night)
Bottom right: All like above

Mid-Upper and front: Both 1st 300 rounds, 60% A.P., 20% Incend.,
20% Tracer (Night)
Reminder 60% A.P., 20% Incend. 20% Tracer (Day).

[swiss]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Not sure on the Luftwaffe, but the RAF used tracer rounds; not tracers inside bullets. These were not bullets, and they could not inflict any realy damage. The tracers themselves only gave a rough idea of where the bullets fell.
Sorry if I'm not making myself clear...


For example:

Bomber Command Ammuition 0.303-in.
Between January 1942 and May 1944 the operational sequence for belting
0.303-in. ammunition was as follows:

7 A.P., 2 incend., 1 tracer (day or night)

On the 26th May 1944, provision was made to alter the current sequence, should the necessity arise, to enable a quick turn-round of aircraft for day/night operations, to be effectec:

Rear Top left: all 70% A.P., 30% Incend., no Tracer
Top right: 1st 500 rounds like above
Reminder 50% A.P., 20% Incend., 30% Tracer (Night)

Bottom left: All 60% A.P., 20% Incend., 20% Tracer (Night)
Bottom right: All like above

Mid-Upper and front: Both 1st 300 rounds, 60% A.P., 20% Incend.,
20% Tracer (Night)
Reminder 60% A.P., 20% Incend. 20% Tracer (Day).

Is the link missing?