Friday 2010-10-22 Dev. update and Discussion

[C_G]

I would gladly trade off "pretty" clouds for more generic clouds if it means that the AI-bot pilots can't see through them.... anybody know if this is a feature planned for Oleg's BoB?
Rise of Flight wanted to include this feature but didn't on release, I don't know if any of the RoF patches so far have corrected that.

[xnomad]

As far as I can tell we are completely in the dark with details about AI. I did a bit of a search on posts by Oleg but couldn't find him ever mentioning anything about AI behaviour etc. Then again the forum search function isn't that great.

If anyone has any details on anything AI related, please tell as I'd like to know about it. Also any info on AI controlled planes in terms of DM and FM.

I'm a bit worried that the market is all about online play, so offline features are likely to have taken a bit of a back seat.

[PilotError]

Originally Posted by xnomad

As far as I can tell we are completely in the dark with details about AI. I did a bit of a search on posts by Oleg but couldn't find him ever mentioning anything about AI behaviour etc. Then again the forum search function isn't that great.

If anyone has any details on anything AI related, please tell as I'd like to know about it. Also any info on AI controlled planes in terms of DM and FM.

I'm a bit worried that the market is all about online play, so offline features are likely to have taken a bit of a back seat.

There hasn't been a lot said about the AI in SOW, but in the few statements Oleg has made it looks like there will be a big improvement over Il2.

I'm going from memory here but my understanding is that AI won't be able to see through cockpits, clouds or hills. A multi crewed plane can have each crew member with a different level (rookie to ace) of ability. And one of the most interesting points is that AI can panic ! Not sure how that will be displayed but it sure sound good.

If my memory has been playing tricks then I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will correct me.

[kendo65]

Regarding the AI, i think Oleg said that there will be more emphasis on individual pilot differences - thinks like aggression levels, aerobatic ability, calmness/panic, etc than in il-2.

Believe the LOS and AI-awareness levels will be realistic - so we will be able to 'bounce' AI flights.

Oleg said recently that the AI are behaving very like their real-life equivalents.

I'm intrigued to find out just how advanced this is going to be. Will we see 110s that are attacked form a defensive circle for instance?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by C_G

I would gladly trade off "pretty" clouds for more generic clouds if it means that the AI-bot pilots can't see through them.... anybody know if this is a feature planned for Oleg's BoB?
Rise of Flight wanted to include this feature but didn't on release, I don't know if any of the RoF patches so far have corrected that.

Yes, I'm 99% sure that Oleg has said that the AI wil be unable to look through clouds, or their own wings for that sake... Wasn't there even talk about this coming to IL2 in 4.10?

[addman]

A.I, yeah that's also VERY important. Something that almost ruins offline play is the A.I's "spider-sense" when you get to a certain distance to it and it immediately senses you. Imagine using real tactics and be able to swoop down on an enemy formation and rip some apart before it even knows you're there and even after that struggles to find you as you ascend back in to the clouds. Now THAT is more important to ME than clickable cockpits and historical correct farm yards.

[MOG_Rumboy]

Absolutely great Oleg. Reflections are fantastic. Not sure if someone else mentioned - so many pages of positive response here well deserved.

The reflections very nice but not a reflection? Pic 9, the picture is the image of the pilot from the front rather than the mirror image.

I'll still buy it straight away though!

Keep up the great work.
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[Robert]

Originally Posted by addman

A.I, yeah that's also VERY important. Something that almost ruins offline play is the A.I's "spider-sense" when you get to a certain distance to it and it immediately senses you. Imagine using real tactics and be able to swoop down on an enemy formation and rip some apart before it even knows you're there and even after that struggles to find you as you ascend back in to the clouds. Now THAT is more important to ME than clickable cockpits and historical correct farm yards.

Actually, everything Oleg and crew have worked for would be wasted if there's not a marked improvement in AI. I don't fly online so this is important to me. I am highly impressed with the progress of BoB and as such maintain my hopes based upon all that I've seen so far, that the AI WILL be much better than IL2.

Frankly, I'm not all that impressed with RoF's AI. Though it does have some good routines, it relies on cheating a lot.

The proof will be in the release.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Robert

The proof will be in the release.

I guess so, video/PC games A.I -in general- have NOT kept up with other parts of game developing the last decade IMO. It's sad really, things are almost going the opposite direction with games like CoD were MP is probably more popular than SP. All those cores and calculation power only going to waste. Here's hopes that SoW will be leaps ahead of what IL-2 had to offer, though I'm cautiously optimistic

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by Robert

Actually, everything Oleg and crew have worked for would be wasted if there's not a marked improvement in AI. I don't fly online so this is important to me. I am highly impressed with the progress of BoB and as such maintain my hopes based upon all that I've seen so far, that the AI WILL be much better than IL2.

Same here. Now we haven't heard too many details about the AI (just like with other core features), but what we did hear sounds like some nice progress. Mostly the possibility to have different skill levels in different areas (aiming, flying, awareness etc.) and that the AI will no longer have x-ray vision in all directions.

Looking forward to see how this will add up