Friday 2010-10-15 Dev. update and Discussion

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by furbs

Here is some pics i found of the english countryside...


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-16


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-16


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-16


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-16

and here is a good one of the isle of wight...


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-16

Now i know Oleg said the pic may not be a true image of the colours seen, we dont know time of day etc, but it is quite clear that the landscape should be alot darker with more green fields and dark hedgerows, and i dont see any lavender or bulish violet fields anyway....this is what i see everyday with my own eyes.

now compair it with this weeks shot...


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-15


Now...i have to say this is the only problem ive seen with the SOW updates, everything else looks like it will set the new standard for flight sims.

So did you read Oleg's reply about this or did you just not understand a word of it?


It beggars belief. There are genuinely some people here that seem to be expecting real life with the imagery. I'm more interested in the FM and DM being accurate than whether or not the farmer has barley or potatoes in his fields.

As somebody already pointed out the real gems of information are not from the shots but Oleg's commentary this week, very exciting future but obviously dependent on finance. It makes me want to buy multiple copies just in case!!!

I understood what Oleg said perfectly well, he said we would have terrain far better than WOP/BOP and that the game would be cinematic. I believe him and i am certain that eventually we will start to see this. At the moment the terrain clearly still needs work and colour adjustment, Like Furby I live in England and spend every weekend mountain biking in the English country side, Olegs terrain is currently the wrong colours, see Furbs pics for the right colours. Other than that the update is excellent and thank you Oleg. Is it possible that we could have just one screenie in DX 11 in the near future.

[Osprey]

I don't think that any adjustment would bring about a positive comment from you

[Hatch]

wow guys, you really need to get you're monitors calibrated.
Nealy all of furbs photographs need some adjustments.
some even have a purple magenta cast LOL.

Certaily teh Isle of Wight one is all wrong

Reread oleg's comments about colours and perception.

[kendo65]

The colours certainly are changing and developing from week to week. I think with the complexity of the lighting model it is a difficult task to get things nailed down perfectly.

I'll preface what I'm about to say by observing that I'm really pleased with this week's update and the obvious progression that is apparent. I'm also confident that things will keep improving.

At the moment, I'd agree things are a little too pastel-shaded (though good point Spudkopf about the haze). Not so long ago it was looking over-saturated. With reference to the various photos posted (even bearing Oleg's caveats in mind), and from personal experience of the British countryside there is a certain 'vibrancy' to the greens in summer time that is hard to reproduce - it's all too easy to move into results that are too bright and over-saturated.

I'm looking forward to Oleg presenting us with the final version - judging by this post he seems confident:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

textures the same. Simply more powerfull PC
And yes... still not final
You should wait for final looking ground

I don't have a problem personally with the lavender-shaded fields - I understand the effect they are going for.

Also noticed that the trees seem to be integrated into the rest of the terrain much better now - we're getting there!

[swiss]

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[NLS61]

[QUOTE=Tree_UK;190135]the game would be cinematic.QUOTE]

In that case Oleg is both right and ready I still have to see one film that has all the colouring just right.
Further more when I’m flying my glider over Europe the sight (distance) is less than what I see in de screenshots.
But what I see I like a lot I'm somewhat of an illustrator and these pics while being rendered look fantastic it would be hard to get as good an result with an artist rendering.
So, Oleg, my hat of to you.
Niels

Just so that people have an idea what my reference is you can have a look at some of my work http://www.dbag.nl/pagina13.php

[Oleg Maddox]

[QUOTE=NLS61;190154]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

the game would be cinematic.QUOTE]

In that case Oleg is both right and ready I still have to see one film that has all the colouring just right.
Further more when I’m flying my glider over Europe the sight (distance) is less than what I see in de screenshots.
But what I see I like a lot I'm somewhat of an illustrator and these pics while being rendered look fantastic it would be hard to get as good an result with an artist rendering.
So, Oleg, my hat of to you.
Niels

Just so that people have an idea what my reference is you can have a look at some of my work http://www.dbag.nl/pagina13.php

Nice site!

[ChrisDNT]

"It beggars belief. There are genuinely some people here that seem to be expecting real life with the imagery."

Choosing the right color palette for the described area is not a matter of computer power, but a designer's choice.

"I'm more interested in the FM and DM being accurate than whether or not the farmer has barley or potatoes in his fields."

Good question, I've never heard anything until now about the energy model : has it be improved from Il-2, or said in another way will the energy fighters be able to be used in the sim as they were in real life against turn-and-burn fighters ?

[robtek]

Originally Posted by ChrisDNT

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Good question, I've never heard anything until now about the energy model : has it be improved from Il-2, or said in another way will the energy fighters be able to be used in the sim as they were in real life against turn-and-burn fighters ?

Oh, you have the experience to tell the difference?
Or do you only have expectations fueled by reading and other, questionable sources?