Never mind new planes, I need a new installer!

[IceFire]

Sounds like you were doing alright till BoE screwed up things again. I think maybe the sequence in which you installed that (after the other patches) may have done something... not sure.

The install problem has always been about the crappy last minute effort (by Ubisoft) to add DRM to the install and consequently patched it by offering a no-cd check exe because they did such a shoddy job of it in the first place. The DRM makes it difficult for some drives to work with it and later versions of Windows add some more interdependency that just make it a nightmare. I have a permanent backup of IL-2 so I never have to install it again. Fortunately it's a game that doesn't mind that.

Since Ubisoft doesn't support the game in any meaningful way (except the forums) I doubt this will ever be fixed.

[Seeker]

Yes, it was the crappy secure rom protection that was the problem.

I think the BoE install, or rather, it's patch, left some stuff in the /users/apdata/ file structure I missed, and that's what was preventing the simple replacement of the install folder from working.

Nonetheless, it's worrying that newer hardware and OS make it so difficult to install. I wonder how the Steam version fares? As you say, IDE CD burners have always had problems with IL2 disks, but this new SATA CD just flatly refused to run it.

Ironicaly, the UP install was a breeze after finally getting IL2 installed. Very well thought out.

But my point still stands - it seems that most on this board (or the Zoo) are waiting with baited breath for yet another 109 load out option or for the plane of thier choice to finaly get the correct rivet pattern over the gun covers. Or evén worse, still hlding out for the P51 to be finaly "fixed"...

I'm much more interested in the game engine it's self. Dgen sucks, static campaigns are limited and the interface horrible.

It seems 4.10 may actually be more than just another new plane/skin pack, a development I'd really like to praise and encourage.