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Old 09-19-2010, 01:35 PM
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ok- i've got one (and throttle) and am happy with it
i doubt i'd ever go back to 'short' sticks

downsides:-
long waiting times as mentioned
original plastic trigger spoon was a bit fragile- should be a metal one now
over 2 yrs the rubber 'boot' on the stick base seems to have hardened up a bit

anything else you want to know?
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Old 09-19-2010, 03:06 PM
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Thanks for the advise.

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ok- i've got one (and throttle) and am happy with it
i doubt i'd ever go back to 'short' sticks

downsides:-
long waiting times as mentioned
original plastic trigger spoon was a bit fragile- should be a metal one now
over 2 yrs the rubber 'boot' on the stick base seems to have hardened up a bit

anything else you want to know?
Awesome thanks for the information, any chance you could upload some shots of your setup?

Which version do you have, the KG13?

Have you regretted your purchase or do you think that it was worth the money? (I am a keen simmer but have not played il2 for some time... I have ROF but I prefer the ww2 setting so patiently waiting for SOW)

Is there any part other than the trigger that is weak/fragile?

The hardening of the rubber boot, has it affected the use at all?

Do you think that the increased control that this stick gives you has improved your aiming or did you have to get used to flying without a deadspot?

Going back to Les post he mentioned the springs(or whatever system they use) what does the stick feel like, do you need to be firm with it... Im not a fan of light springs?

The force feedback is it strong?
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:00 PM
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Awesome equipments.
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:12 PM
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yep kg13

pit pics here
http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/bolox00/pit/

no i haven't regreted it in the slightest. had it for 2 yrs and it gets a good workout with il2 and a little ROF

i love the no return to centre (no springs) and the smoothness of control a long stick gives- aiming might be improved slightly (you should be centred while shooting really)where it really shows is on the edge of the envelope with 'twitchy' planes, riding G blackouts etc. that and the fact it feels like a real stick between your legs- forces excepted.
rubber boot- if anything it stiffens up the stick slightly- if it were sprung i doubt i'd notice the difference

lets repeat this- THERE IS NO CENTERING SYSTEM - you push it to a position and it stays there. there is a damping system so you push against a mild force.
there was talk of some sort of force option later- this may be what the new base is about but tarmac are being tight lipped.

if you want a sprung stick
http://schreinerschmid-web.homepage....ession*id*val*
did a sprung kg13 type stick (he frequents here ocassionally aswell)
atm i can't think of a 'long stick' with ffb
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Old 09-19-2010, 06:46 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply and images Bolox.

I have sent an email asking for some delivery information etc hopefully i will hear back from them soon.

BTW awesome setup, I don't think I will go as far as that.
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:00 AM
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Great hardware bolox, what is the total cost of those equipments?
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:01 AM
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Great hardware bolox, what is the total cost of those equipments?
cost- was built over several years/ upgrades but...

tatmac aces stick/throttle ~£700
simped rudders ~£200
beta innovations controller(rip) ~£150
switches pots etc ~£200
wood/metal etc ~£100

would be a rough guess but spread over 5 yrs or so( and you could add 3 pc's )- still cheaper than going down the pub
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:11 PM
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still cheaper than going down the pub
Agree but wifes never understand...
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