Friday 2010-09-10 Dev. update and Discussions

[BadAim]

Why would Oleg tell all the whining, sniveling turds a damn thing? So that he may incur even more whining and sniveling? The rest of us are waiting patiently anyway, actual adults don't have to ask "are we there yet" every five minutes, we know we'll be there when we arrive.

I'm glad Oleg is the man he is and let's us have little peeks at his "baby" in spite of all the bitching and moaning.

[Richie]

Very cool in-cockpit Spitfire vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1vZjPi7ZSk&feature=fvsr

[Insuber]

This discussion took place a zillion times (and I merrily participated a trillion times, ). Let's save bad nerves and avoid polluting the planet with 10 pages of posts. I will take this burden for you.

"Side A: Oleg should tell more to his faithful customers. We have the right to be informed, it costs nothing, it's good for the market, it's good for communication, my grandmother will be happy, blah blah blah ...
Side B: Oleg doesn't owe us anything, we have no rights whatsoever, disclosing too much is bad for the market, we are not customers because there's no product yet, it will be ready when it will be ready, go out and have a life, blah blah blah."

END OF THE DEBATE.

Aaaaaaah ... don't you feel better now ?

[O_Smiladon]

Nice Vid Richie,

Thanks for sharing

S

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Insuber

This discussion took place a zillion times (and I merrily participated a trillion times, ). Let's save bad nerves and avoid polluting the planet with 10 pages of posts. I will take this burden for you.

"Side A: Oleg should tell more to his faithful customers. We have the right to be informed, it costs nothing, it's good for the market, it's good for communication, my grandmother will be happy, blah blah blah ...
Side B: Oleg doesn't owe us anything, we have no rights whatsoever, disclosing too much is bad for the market, we are not customers because there's no product yet, it will be ready when it will be ready, go out and have a life, blah blah blah."

END OF THE DEBATE.

Aaaaaaah ... don't you feel better now ?

Aaaaaaaaaaaah ...... much better now

Originally Posted by BadAim

Why would Oleg tell all the whining, sniveling turds a damn thing? So that he may incur even more whining and sniveling? The rest of us are waiting patiently anyway, actual adults don't have to ask "are we there yet" every five minutes, we know we'll be there when we arrive.

I'm glad Oleg is the man he is and let's us have little peeks at his "baby" in spite of all the bitching and moaning.

Im not saying that Oleg should give us a weekly progress report mate, what im saying is that if Oleg gives an indication of a release date and then misses it, he could at least post something, because once somebody asks what as happened they get jumped on by all you super patient chaps. Oh and im not a turd.

[O_Smiladon]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Im not saying that Oleg should give us a weekly progress report mate, what im saying is that if Oleg gives an indication of a release date and then misses it, he could at least post something, because once somebody asks what as happened they get jumped on by all you super patient chaps. Oh and im not a turd.

I think the word here is "Toshay"

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by RAF_Smiladon

I think the word here is "Toshay"

Touche? But with a French accent on the 'e'. I think.

[O_Smiladon]

yeah you got it

[Jimko]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Of course, this is my personal opinion and not the absolute, universal truth, so everyone do feel free to strongly disagree, pick it apart and shoot it down at your own leisure...who knows, something positive might come out of the whole exchange and if it does, that's worth it too. It's good for a community when members are strongly opinionated, what's bad is them being dogmatic

Originally Posted by BadAim

Why would Oleg tell all the whining, sniveling turds a damn thing? So that he may incur even more whining and sniveling? The rest of us are waiting patiently anyway, actual adults don't have to ask "are we there yet" every five minutes, we know we'll be there when we arrive.

I'm glad Oleg is the man he is and let's us have little peeks at his "baby" in spite of all the bitching and moaning.

Is this the kind of positive feedback you were expecting, Blackdog_kt?



Seriously, though, I agree with you, Blackdog_kt! I said before (on a different forum) that Oleg and Co. are throwing out 'scraps to the dogs' and they must get some comic relief watching the antics...but that's not a bad thing! Obviously, he is willing to tell us a bit about their progress and nothing about the expected release date, for whatever reasons. More importantly is the fact that they still get a sense of how their innovations are being received and I'm sure they view the criticisms with a certain amount of tolerance and understanding. First of all, the statistics of the number of people who are critical of various things are few compared to the number of posters and the total number of viewers on any given update week. Second, a large number of criticisms, to a developer, when viewed in the context of some average percent of the total viewers can mean something....it's a statistic like a poll that tells the pollster that a percentage of the population feels strongly about some aspect. In this case, the weekly pictures are the poll, and the response can be judged from the feedback. However, you have to relate the number of positive and negative responses to the total number of viewers. Sometimes, it's apparent that a forum reader will make a first new post just because he feels strongly enough about something in one of the screenshots to finally post about it. And third, many posters are regulars who post again and again, so that has to be taken into consideration by the developers so it doesn’t warp the perception of the kind of feedback, positive or negative.

I think that they take all these things into consideration, they must be aware of them, and they are not dissuaded nor discouraged by the feedback. And I suspect that the weekly pleas for a release date or schedule just makes Oleg smile at the eagerness of the fans while he ignores those requests.

As a developer I would be much more worried about an apathetic audience than an over zealous one!