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Old 09-15-2010, 01:24 PM
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During the Malvinas conflict the Vulcan's bombed the Argentinian airfield, if anyone died I don't know but I guess that was the intention. The tankers you refer to where the Victor bombers/tankers.
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During the Falklands conflict, the Vulcans bombed the runway at Stanley Airport in order that Argentinian fast jets could not use it. Then they used Shrike missiles to take out radar facilities.
The Victor's sole purpose was as a tanker by this time.
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During the Falklands conflict, the Vulcans bombed the runway at Stanley Airport in order that Argentinian fast jets could not use it. Then they used Shrike missiles to take out radar facilities.
The Victor's sole purpose was as a tanker by this time.
Ah, thats right. The Victor's where used to refuel the Vulcan's, who took off from UK.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:10 PM
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Reading up on the situation regarding the five attacks on Port Stanley during “Thatchers War” I find that the Argentinians state that two where killed and two injured. And one hole in the runway, easily patched up the next day.

So that is the final score for this war-bird. Not sure whether that is a success or a failure for the UK taxpayers money.

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Old 09-15-2010, 04:27 PM
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Viking, you lack a long term global perspective.

You cherry pick your facts to suit your personal agenda.

Would you be happier in a Russian Communist dominated Europe?

Would you even be able to post on a site like this.

Think man.
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Viking, you lack a long term global perspective.

You cherry pick your facts to suit your personal agenda.

Would you be happier in a Russian Communist dominated Europe?

Would you even be able to post on a site like this.

Think man.
1 No! I dont!
2 No! The facts sutch as.....? Please explain.
3 Yes! Over a US dominated EU. Sure!
4 Yes! Whitout doubt.
5 I am! I dont think you are!

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Old 09-15-2010, 05:28 PM
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”Also, Argentina realised that their Homeland was within range, and redeployed their air defence fighters to Northern Argentina, to defend against an attack which never took place.”


This is contradicted in the official text easily found in Wikipedia that states “

Argentine sources were originally the source of claims that the Vulcan raids influenced Argentina to withdraw some of its Mirage IIIs from Southern Argentina to the Buenos Aires Defence Zone.[26][27][28] This dissuasive effect was however watered down when British officials made clear that there would be no strikes on air bases in Argentina.[29”

I wasn't there so I don't know!

There is no doubt in my mind that the whole war was a sideshow from the junta to keep going for a few years more. But....what the h@ck is GB doing with an island this far far from the home land? Smacks of imperialism if you ask me! But off course you wont do that!

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Old 09-15-2010, 05:44 PM
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”Also, Argentina realised that their Homeland was within range, and redeployed their air defence fighters to Northern Argentina, to defend against an attack which never took place.”


This is contradicted in the official text easily found in Wikipedia that states “

Argentine sources were originally the source of claims that the Vulcan raids influenced Argentina to withdraw some of its Mirage IIIs from Southern Argentina to the Buenos Aires Defence Zone.[26][27][28] This dissuasive effect was however watered down when British officials made clear that there would be no strikes on air bases in Argentina.[29”

I wasn't there so I don't know!

There is no doubt in my mind that the whole war was a sideshow from the junta to keep going for a few years more. But....what the h@ck is GB doing with an island this far far from the home land? Smacks of imperialism if you ask me! But off course you wont do that!

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That doesn't contradict what I said at all!!
If you check the statistics of how many Argentinian aircraft were downed, and how many Sea Harriers were lost, it's fairly obvious that Argentina's Air Defence fighters weren't there much!

I agree with the 'sideshow' issue though. Galtieri needed to up his popularity at home, and as it happens so did our then Prime Miinister, who's name I like to forget.
As to imperialism, well we did have the largest empire in the history of the world in the dim and distant past, so we're not immune from imperialist thought, but the population of the Falklands consider themselves British, and the British tend to defend themselves.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:41 PM
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1 No! I dont!
2 No! The facts sutch as.....? Please explain.
3 Yes! Over a US dominated EU. Sure!
4 Yes! Whitout doubt.
5 I am! I dont think you are!

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And this is the same person a while back who wanted to see Americans die tragically:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...11&postcount=2

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...24&postcount=4

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Viking must be all of 16 and not fully aware.

Grow up son.
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3 Yes! Over a US dominated EU. Sure!
4 Yes! Whitout doubt.
5 I am! I dont think you are!

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You my friend, should read some Machiavelli.
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