FW-200 fire origin is bizzare

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Phillip, the photo you posted of the American Airlines is a fake. Now you definitely can't use that as reference, lol.

Should I cry? It's just a demonstration. If some photoshop idiot can get it right, then why can't a group that's been working with flight-sims for years? A simple answer on how fire can possibly look like that would be great (obviously Oleg isn't entitled to answer!). I mean, obviously it might be the way the shot has been taken (or when it was taken) but I'v never seen this in all the guncam clips I've seen or even in real-life images.

I mean, if this is fuel related the flames should be fierce. Puny flames like this would surely be extinguished easily by the airflow?

[Romanator21]

Umm, thanks for editing my post? What was the point in that replacing an aircraft image with that green thing? So I look more antagonizing? Get a life.

If some photoshop idiot can get it right, then why can't a group that's been working with flight-sims for years?

How can you say he/she got it right? Just because it looks cool?

You seem to think that making flame effects is bone-headedly easy. If it is, why don't you show us some examples of your own work?

Puny flames like this would surely be extinguished easily by the airflow?

A flame (though fake) totally surrounding an engine is not puny. Flowing air can actually fan the flames and make them stronger. Dripping fuel can hit the air and "vaporize" in a trailing cloud like you see in Il-2 and ignite at any moment.

[winny]

Another (very famous) aircraft on fire.

The tragic concorde fuel tank rupture.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Umm, thanks for editing my post? What was the point in that replacing an aircraft image with that green thing? So I look more antagonizing? Get a life.





How can you say he/she got it right? Just because it looks cool?

You seem to think that making flame effects is bone-headedly easy. If it is, why don't you show us some examples of your own work?



A flame (though fake) totally surrounding an engine is not puny. Flowing air can actually fan the flames and make them stronger. Dripping fuel can hit the air and "vaporize" in a trailing cloud like you see in Il-2 and ignite at any moment.

I didn't edit it......i thought you were doing that to antagonize me Ask Nearmiss if you don't believe me. it was in your post when I quoted you.

Regarding flames, calm down! I am basing all my knowledge on countless amounts of guncam videos I've seen. When I have fires in my fireplace, i can't see the bricks behind the flames, yet clearly here the flames are on such a small level one can. Now, there may be more scientific reasons (such as the fact that some flames on the hottest heat burn blue and are partly see-through, ie a bunsen burner) but I don't know. I've searched for pictures that match this one, and I can't find any.
My point is that this photoshop job does look realistic; a lot more than in this screenshot.
As I said, factors can affect this (like the movement in the game that will affect the screenshot) but I don't know.
All I've been trying to say is there is not a lot of historical evidence to support the flame-effect. Various factors may make it completely plausible but it's easier to go on what you know than 'maybe's'.

EDIT-did you deliberately want me to quote you and then change the picture to make me look like a prick? You edited your post after you posted this one! So you did insert that picture...or did it just appear there?

[Romanator21]

I fixed my post so it would be like I ORIGINALLY posted it. I don't know how that green face got in there. If it wasn't you, then I apologize, but now I wonder who did it.

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

I fixed my post so it would be like I ORIGINALLY posted it. I don't know how that green face got in there. If it wasn't you, then I apologize, but now I wonder who did it.

You were hotlinking to a site that doesn't like hotlinking - when you check the image properties of the smiley image, it still says

http://graphics2.snopes.com/photos/a...ire2_small.jpg

which is the image you wanted to post. Your post probably looked fine to you because the image was still in the browser cache. Everyone else however saw the simley.

No harm done

[philip.ed]

OK, thanks for that. And Romanator; I apologies mate; I should not have jumped to those conclusions and gone off like that. So sorry for that.

Man, Oleg and Luthier do a good job of creating internal tensions here lol

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Man, Oleg and Luthier do a good job of creating internal tensions here lol

Oleg and Luthier have nothing to do with it.